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    Default Re: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Charges

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    I love it.

    It's not important since there is a video but even if there isn't a video.


    If you don;t know now if there is a video, you are lost.

    If the video was made by a private entity (as in non-governmental) they have no duty to retain the video for any period of time unless they are ordered by the court to retain it. If that has not been done yet, there is nothing to prevent the owner from deleting it.

    Even if it was done by a governmental agency, there may not be any requirement to retain a copy for any specific length of time.

    and a diagram; ya, that's the answer. You presenting a diagram is you presenting a diagram. It's not like they have to accept that any more than they accept your story. It is simply you telling your story with pictures. It is still your point of view, your perspective. It can help describe the situation but if they don't believe you, all the drawings in the world aren't going to make any difference.


    You sound a like a 15 yo kid that thinks he rules the world. The witness doesn't handle anything. You answer questions when asked. You keep your mouth shut when not asked a question. If you speak when not spoken to, the prosecutor asks the judge to tell you to shut up. You don't make the rules and you surely don't "handle" the prosecutor.
    Even if there wasn't a video, as in, in a totally different hypothetical situation where the video wasn't there, you still wouldn't be able to bs the facts into confusion by asking stupid questions.

    I know someone who works at that public entity, and they do not delete the videos for a while. If this video was suddenly deleted out of order, my friend would know what happened. Anyways my lawyer has gone through the process, I just don't know the details of what is going on with that.

    Who said they aren't going to believe me? You acted as though you could poke holes in my crystal clear story by repeatedly asking me the same questions over and over. That is absurd and would just make you look stupid.

    So, in otherwords if I, at just the right moment, give a non yes or no answer that completely destroys the prosecuters entire argument which was mostly based on perversion of truth, I might receive a warning from the judge? Got it.

    You are clearly not involved in any kind of trial procedings. Your knowledge of how these things work is shoddy at best. The only thing I can't figure out is who ARE you? You would lie cheat and steal to try and prevent someone from using the defense fully afforded to them by law for this exact situation, all in the name of justice? What is wrong with you?

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    Who said they aren't going to believe me? You acted as though you could poke holes in my crystal clear story by repeatedly asking me the same questions over and over. That is absurd and would just make you look stupid.
    you are the one that changed the details constantly, not me. I merely pointed out your inconstancies.

    So, in otherwords if I, at just the right moment, give a non yes or no answer that completely destroys the prosecuters entire argument which was mostly based on perversion of truth, I might receive a warning from the judge? Got it.
    you watch way too much TV. This isn't Law and Order.

    You are clearly not involved in any kind of trial procedings. Your knowledge of how these things work is shoddy at best. The only thing I can't figure out is who ARE you? You lie cheat and steal to try and prevent someone from using the defense fully afforded to them by law for this exact situation, all in the name of justice? What is wrong with you
    well, one leg is slightly shorter than the other and my eyes are not perfectly level but other than that, there is nothing wrong with me.

    you just keep believing your dreams of how this will go down in the courtroom.

    and I lie, cheat, and steal? and somehow, even if I had, how would that affect what you use as a defense?

    and who am I:

    I am the Shadow and the Shadow knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men, including yours. You are an evil little boy that felt the need to threaten a woman with your baseball bat after cutting her off and she got pissed at you.

    I bet your mommy is proud of the little boy she raised.

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    Default Re: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Charges

    I didn't change any details. You purposely read them out of order and pretended to have confused yourself for the benefit of some imagined audience. That imagined audience is laughing at your transparent behavior.

    A's mom told him the charges were ridiculous and A merely acted in self defense.

    I would dare you to look me in the eye and try and tell me that I was evil. Not because I would hurt you but because you would know the claim would be totally full of it, that you probably couldn't even bring yourself to say it. That is, unless you are some sort of sociopath, which I fully suspect is what is behind many agents of the justice system.

    You know, in an odd way, you have actually been much more helpful than you probably ever intended to be.

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    I didn't change any details. You purposely read them out of order and pretended to have confused yourself for the benefit of some imagined audience. That imagined audience is laughing at your transparent behavior.

    A's mom told him the charges were ridiculous and A merely acted in self defense.

    I would dare you to look me in the eye and try and tell me that I was evil. Not because I would hurt you but because you would know the claim would be totally full of it, that you probably couldn't even bring yourself to say it. That is, unless you are some sort of sociopath, which I fully suspect is what is behind many agents of the justice system.

    Your paranoia is astonishing in its absurdity.

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    citizenxo;399720]I didn't change any details. You purposely read them out of order and pretended to have confused yourself for the benefit of some imagined audience. That imagined audience is laughing at your transparent behavior.
    and you don't think a DA will point out how many times you change your facts?

    A's mom told him the charges were ridiculous and A merely acted in self defense.
    Well, a mom usually does support their children, even when they are wrong. It is the motherly instinct.

    I would dare you to look me in the eye and try and tell me that I was evil.
    I don't think I could get low enough to look you in the eye. I don't threaten women with baseball bats.

    Not because I would hurt you but because you would know the claim would be totally full of it, that you probably couldn't even bring yourself to say it.
    well, if you needed a baseball bat to scare a woman, I doubt you would be able to hurt me so I am not concerned about that.

    That is, unless you are some sort of sociopath, which I fully suspect is what is behind many agents of the justice system
    .

    Aww man, you caught us. We are all a bunch of raving lunatics. Everybody thinks we are on the inside of the cage but in reality, it is all of you that are in the cage and we are in control.


    I have been having a lot of fun but let me get serious with you for a minute:

    you need to think about your actions and position. In my opinion, nobody is going to believe you reasonably believed you needed to threaten, especially with a weapon, in the situation you were in. In fact, since she was in a car, how did you intend on stopping her if she did intend to injure you or damage your car? It's not like she would have worried about her car being damaged so what would the bat do that her hitting your car wouldn't? Your defense just doesn't make any sense.


    You need to quit kidding yourself with your defense and what you think is your ability to control this situation. You are not in control and if this is real, you are faced with some very serious charges and possibly looking at serious prison time if convicted.

    If this is real, you need to shut up and quit telling everybody your story and speak with your attorney and only your attorney. Anybody you speak to can be used as a witness against you. This isn't a game and what I think doesn't mean anything when you are setting in that defendants chair trying to explain why a guy that plays baseball felt threatened enough by a woman they he needed to use a baseball bat to get his point across. It will be a tough sell regardless what the law states about no duty to retreat.

    It's time to stop telling everybody, no, anybody about it and use some of the money you were bragging about (if it is real) and hire a very good attorney. You are fighting a very steep uphill battle.

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    Default Re: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Charges

    A was reacting to a 2000 lb motor vehicle being operated by a road rager, not some harmless female. It would be ILLEGAL for this to go to trial, as you would know if you were actually capable of reading the laws you even posted yourself that CLEARLY STATE a person is well within their rights to use the threat of force to defend themselves against the threat of damage to their property or their person.

    You guys are ridiculous and are not fooling anybody. Your pathetic attempts to read claims out of order and then claim that someone "changed their story" is laughable at best. No one is interested in what you have to say, and you are wasting your time here. This is a legal advice forum, for competent people to offer legal advice. You have no business posting here, and furthermore I find it disturbing that you continue to act in this manner with wreckless disregard for how your contrived statements might confuse the issue. You seem to have no interest whatsoever in the truth, and thus continuing to argue with you is a waste of time.

    I once again invite anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth of the matter to consider GA state law:

    O.C.G.A. § 16-3-24
    Use of force in defense of property other than a habitation

    (a) A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to prevent or terminate such other's trespass on or other tortious or criminal interference with real property other than a habitation or personal property:

    (1) Lawfully in his possession;

    and

    O.C.G.A. § 16-3-23.1
    No duty to retreat prior to use of force in self-defense

    A person who uses threats or force in accordance with Code Section 16-3-21, relating to the use of force in defense of self or others, Code Section 16-3-23, relating to the use of force in defense of a habitation, or Code Section 16-3-24, relating to the use of force in defense of property other than a habitation, has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use force as provided in said Code sections, including deadly force.

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    Default Re: Gridlocked Road Rager Shown a Bat, Results in Charges

    Additionaly, regarding the other driver's actions:

    § 40-6-397. Aggressive driving; penalty

    (a) A person commits the offense of aggressive driving when he or she operates any motor vehicle with the intent to annoy, harass, molest, intimidate, injure, or obstruct another person, including without limitation violating Code Section 40-6-42, 40-6-48, 40-6-49, 40-6-123, 40-6-184, 40-6-312, or 40-6-390 with such intent.

    (b) Any person convicted of aggressive driving shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.

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