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    Default Re: Too Quick to Draw

    I drive a white firebird which the TEXAS plate, (NOT ARIZONA) it has on it comes back to and is clear PER THE DISPATCHER. point is the cop did not listen to what the dispatcher said which means he does not have the ability to comprehend what he is being told and because of that made a grave error in judement. once again I ask, If a citizen understands what the dispatcher is saying, why can't the cop? a cop pulling his gun on a law abiding citizen is unwarranted is just wrong. I do not buy that fear for my life crap when the fear is made up in the cops mind and no reason for fear is there. as for the complaint, I filed that Friday and thank GOD for the video / audio in that car. It tells the whole story and since the radio communications is recorded as well it will prove he was wrong in what he did. I hope he loses his fricking job. pricks like him do not belong on the street. If fear has the ability to control his mind that easily then he should find another job. If the IA dept. does its job I will let it go. If not, I found a civil rights attorney who will. to cops, it is no big deal drawing a gun on somebody and judging by his actions and demeanor and cutting up with the guys afterwards it came across as being pretty fun to him. I came to this forum looking for UNBIASED opinions and maybe even finding a lawyers opinon but instead it seems I found one cop defending another. After my ordeal with the police, I can now understand why more and more people everyday are respecting the police less. They are weaving their own web.

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    Regardless of what you THINK the officer heard, the issue will come down to this: DID the officer have a reasonable belief to believe you were in a stolen vehicle? Or, did he have some other reasonable cause to draw a weapon? If so, his actions were justifiable. You do not know what the officer heard, or whether what you heard was cop-speak for something else or not.

    Again, it comes down to a reasonable belief by an officer of similar training and experience, not whether he comprehended the information properly. This is referred to as "the reasonable officer" standard.

    Report it to the agency and see what happens. If they find that he had reasonable cause to draw his weapon and did so within the law and agency policy and no discipline is forthcoming, you are free to spend a good deal of money on an attorney ... though, without real damages, it is unlikely that an award will be forthcoming, but it will be your money to spend should you wish to do so.

    The purpose of this site is to explain the law, not what you would like it to be or what you think the situation was or should have been. If the officer drew a gun on you for NO reason, I would agree with you that the officer should be tossed into the ash can at the very least. But, since you have absolutely no idea what the officer heard or thought he heard, you really have no idea why he did this.

    The key will be the officer's justification for the act and whether his action was reasonable based upon what he believed at the time. The action can be lawful even if the belief was based upon faulty information.


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    Quote Quoting FXDCI
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    I drive a white firebird which the TEXAS plate, (NOT ARIZONA) it has on it comes back to and is clear PER THE DISPATCHER. point is the cop did not listen to what the dispatcher said which means he dob.
    You know what? I can read. I know where the plate was from and where you say the stolen plate was from. Since you want to be a jerk, you can deal with this how ever you want. I'm done.

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    Default Re: Too Quick to Draw

    Quote Quoting FXDCI
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    I drive a white firebird which the TEXAS plate, (NOT ARIZONA) it has on it comes back to and is clear PER THE DISPATCHER. point is the cop did not listen to what the dispatcher said which means he does not have the ability to comprehend what he is being told and because of that made a grave error in judement. once again I ask, If a citizen understands what the dispatcher is saying, why can't the cop? a cop pulling his gun on a law abiding citizen is unwarranted is just wrong. I do not buy that fear for my life crap when the fear is made up in the cops mind and no reason for fear is there. as for the complaint, I filed that Friday and thank GOD for the video / audio in that car. It tells the whole story and since the radio communications is recorded as well it will prove he was wrong in what he did. I hope he loses his fricking job. pricks like him do not belong on the street. If fear has the ability to control his mind that easily then he should find another job. If the IA dept. does its job I will let it go. If not, I found a civil rights attorney who will. to cops, it is no big deal drawing a gun on somebody and judging by his actions and demeanor and cutting up with the guys afterwards it came across as being pretty fun to him. I came to this forum looking for UNBIASED opinions and maybe even finding a lawyers opinon but instead it seems I found one cop defending another. After my ordeal with the police, I can now understand why more and more people everyday are respecting the police less. They are weaving their own web.
    Actually what you found was a cop giving you some honest insight to the thoughts of an officer. He also happens to be one of the most polite posters I have seen on any forum. He even responded civily to this crap.

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    More reason not to like the police. Some are decent, most are crooked.

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    More reason not to like the police. Some are decent, most are crooked.
    Of course they are ...

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    Default Re: Police Were Too Quick to Draw

    OP, I totally understand how you feel. This was a terrifying experience for you, and if I were you I would want to speak to that officer and to his superiors about what happened, why it happened, and how to attempt to make sure it doesn't happen again.

    In the end though, he is a person, and he made a mistake. But a very serious mistake.

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