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    Question Contesting Left Turn, Red Light/Arrow Camera Ticket

    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: Colorado

    I am contesting a Red light Camera ticket I received for completing my left turn, from the right-most left turn lane of a two left turn lane intersection, after I was stranded partially into the intersection.

    While starting to proceed into making a left turn, at an intersection, during a left turn green arrow, the vehicle in front of us suddenly and abruptly braked, leaving me no choice but to also brake and stop. This stop left the front of my vehicle stranded sticking over the crosswalk and partially into the intersection. During this very brief stop the Green arrow had changed to a yellow left turn arrow. Then the vehicle in front of us began to continue through making his left turn. As soon as I was able to proceed forward and complete my left turn, the left turn arrow turned into red arrow, and I was left with no other choice but to complete the turn. Of course, the camera flashed me as soon as I began to move forward. If I didn’t complete this left turn, I would have been obstructing traffic and creating a safety hazard, and it certainly was not an option for me to backup into, or hit the vehicles that were stopped at the stop block behind me.

    I could contest this based on the photograph that is almost 95% glared or whited out showing the driver, but I would rather be honest about this and I feel I had no choice but to complete my turn.

    I am not certain what the laws are regarding this. Do I have a good case/arguement for contesting this?

    Thanks,
    tptools

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    Default Re: Contesting Left Turn, Red Light/Arrow Camera Ticket

    Colorado Revised Statutes state that
    Quote Quoting CRS 42-4-604
    42-4-604. Traffic control signal legend.
    (1) ...
    (c) Steady red indication:
    ...
    (III) Vehicular traffic facing a steady red arrow signal may not enter the intersection to make the movement indicated by such arrow and, unless entering the intersection to make such other movement as is permitted by other indications shown at the same time, shall stop at a clearly marked stop line but, if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then before entering the intersection and shall remain standing until an indication to make the movement indicated by such arrow is shown.

    So, it looks to me that, if you are already IN the intersection when the light turns red, you should be OK. Two questions: 1) Is there a VIDEO, in addition to the photos? If so, what does it show? 2) Does the photo show your vehicle partially in and partially outside the intersection? If so, how much was IN the intersection?

    Barry

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    Default Re: Contesting Left Turn, Red Light/Arrow Camera Ticket

    Quote Quoting blewis
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    Colorado Revised Statutes state that


    So, it looks to me that, if you are already IN the intersection when the light turns red, you should be OK. Two questions: 1) Is there a VIDEO, in addition to the photos? If so, what does it show? 2) Does the photo show your vehicle partially in and partially outside the intersection? If so, how much was IN the intersection?

    Barry
    There was and is no video. The photos do not show me "in and partially out" as they are only triggered once the sensor picked up my vehicle moving over them "completely". It flashed me and took the first photo when I proceeded forward from my second stop where I was partially in the intersection, to complete the turn, as to avoid obstructing traffic.

    Thanks,
    tptools

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    Thumbs up Updated results of contesting, Re:Contesting Left Turn, Red Light/Arrow Camera Ticket

    Just to update on this issue:
    I contested the camera red-light ticket for the reasons I have mentioned, and my motion for dismissal was "Granted".

    Thanks All.


    Quote Quoting tptools
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    There was and is no video. The photos do not show me "in and partially out" as they are only triggered once the sensor picked up my vehicle moving over them "completely". It flashed me and took the first photo when I proceeded forward from my second stop where I was partially in the intersection, to complete the turn, as to avoid obstructing traffic.

    Thanks,
    tptools

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    Default Re: Contesting Left Turn, Red Light/Arrow Camera Ticket

    All right! Way to go!

    Thanks for letting us know,

    Barry

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