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    Default Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

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    I am on felony probation ,i want to know if i fly to europe will i be identified as a felon on probation? I called security at the airport and they didnt want to anserw any questions i also want to know will they arrest me? ive heard some advice and they say only the p.o cares if you leave

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

    They won't arrest you. They aren't allowed to. I don't know whether or not they will call the P.O. and tell him you tried to leave the country. They might not let you buy the ticket, though.

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

    If you get clearance from your PO then you can go. If you do not get permission to go from your PO then don't go unless you want to finish your probabtion behind bars.

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

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    If you get clearance from your PO then you can go. If you do not get permission to go from your PO then don't go unless you want to finish your probabtion behind bars.
    lol I don't think she was asking if it's LEGAL or not.

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

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    lol I don't think she was asking if it's LEGAL or not.
    But our answers will restrict themselves to those answers.

    By the way, if restricted from moving, are you prepared to say that the OP will not be stopped?

    Really?

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

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    But our answers will restrict themselves to those answers.

    By the way, if restricted from moving, are you prepared to say that the OP will not be stopped?

    Really?
    Nope, I didn't say that at all. I just said that someone who is not the P.O. cannot arrest her for probation violation unless there is a warrant obtained by the P.O.'s office. I also said "I don't know whether or not they would call your P.O." But since she already knows it is illegal, telling her it's illegal won't help her.

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

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    Nope, I didn't say that at all. I just said that someone who is not the P.O. cannot arrest her for probation violation unless there is a warrant obtained by the P.O.'s office. I also said "I don't know whether or not they would call your P.O." But since she already knows it is illegal, telling her it's illegal won't help her.
    Go ask the USMS, how many people they detain that are probation trying to leave the country. If they check the NCIC or LIEN systems. It comes back that your on Probation till such date. Then they find out what your conditions are of your probation. Once that is done, if you are doing something in violation of your probation. Guess what you will find yourself detained. They will detain you till your probation officer says to either let you go and they will deal with you. Or to hold you till your po shows up and takes you into custody. Which at that point your considered in violation of probation and back to jail you go.


    Oh and I did not say it was illegal. I said you would be ok as long as you get clearance from your PO.

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

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    Go ask the USMS, how many people they detain that are probation trying to leave the country.
    I'll bite: How many people do the U.S. Marshals detain?

    Sure, it's possible to be detained, and it's possible for a probation officer to find out about unauthorized international travel resulting in a probation violation. But the Marshalls aren't checking the backgrounds of every passenger, seeing if they're on probation, investigating the terms of probation to figure out if travel is permitted and, if not, further investigating to find out if there's an order authorizing the travel as an exception to the general travel restriction. They don't have the time or the manpower

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    I am on felony probation ,i want to know if i fly to europe will i be identified as a felon on probation?
    Maybe.
    Quote Quoting melody
    I called security at the airport and they didnt want to anserw any questions i also want to know will they arrest me?
    From your own phone? You may have attached a 'red flag' to your name.
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    ive heard some advice and they say only the p.o cares if you leave
    In a sense the P.O. cares the most, because that's the P.O.'s job. (I could argue that the sentencing judge cares the most, because the judge is the one who can send you to prison for violating the terms of probation. But it will be the probation officer who asks for that to happen.) Nobody here can promise you that you're vacation will go off without a hitch, or that your travel plans won't be detected after-the-fact.

    Something to consider: your destination nation may be tied into U.S. criminal records, meaning they could look you up, find that felony and, depending upon its nature and their immigration laws and policies, deny you entry. So then you would be sent back home, and you can expect that your probation officer will quickly learn of your transgression.

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

    Mr.Knowitall, I see it on occassion but it is rare. I will aggree with you on that. Also I was wrong with the USMS. It would be Customs that would be doing this.

    It is rare but it does happen.

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    Default Re: Can I Go to Europe While on Felony Probation

    Customs checks you over when you come back into the country. You're right if, by then, a warrant is in the system with a sufficiently broad pickup radius, somebody could be detected and detained a that point.

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