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    Default Lie Detector Test

    is it really that bad to take a lie detector test without a lawyer? i'm being accused of attempting to rob this gas station which i 100% didnt do. i'm an honest student and all i do is school. i'm confident i will pass with flying colors but friends/consultants tell me a lawyer will make things easier. i also know its all based on body impulses so just being nervous will cause a failure.

    i called the polygraph guy and he told me the lawyer must leave the room when i'm taking the test. what use would paying a lawyer $500 do in this situation?

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    find a video on youtube entitled "don't talk top the cops" and watch it through. Then you should be able to answer your own question after that.

    heck, here is a link

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    The results of the "lie detector" test (i.e. the examiner's conclusion of your truthfulness or not) can not generally be used against you at a criminal trial. However, your responses to questions CAN be.

    Being nervous will not be what causes a "failure". The problem is that there is no standard for training and evaluation of a polygraph, and two examiners can give the evaluation differently and read the results differently. A good examination also offers up questions to help establish a base line so nerves would be lees likely to cause a "failure".

    In any event, only take the test if your attorney agrees.

    - Carl

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    find a video on youtube entitled "don't talk top the cops" and watch it through. Then you should be able to answer your own question after that.

    heck, here is a link
    ok, that video makes me depress now. i talked but only because i was trying to prove my innocence. i'm not gonna take the test now. i'm just afraid that since i agreed to take it and now refusing to take it will lead to more suspicion.

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    Dont take a Lie detector test EVER! They are the dumbest thing in the world. You can fail just by being nervous. At least where I am from it is not admissable in court for proof but they will use it to grill you more. Screw the police. All you have to ever say to the police is your name and address. Police just want to harass people. If you are certain you didnt do it, then they wont have any evidence that you did. no evidence, no case. No case, no worries. I was under investigation once for something I didnt do and they played all those games and I told them to kiss my butt and call me if they find any evidence I did anything, and needless to say, they found nothing bc I was no where near the scene when it happened.

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    Dont take a Lie detector test EVER! They are the dumbest thing in the world. You can fail just by being nervous.
    They are not accurate and training in interpretation is not standardized, that is part of the reason they are not admissible. but! There ARE good reasons to take one. For instance, they are SOP in cases involving many child abductions or suspicious disappearances because it allows investigators to focus investigative resources away from the parents or close family members outwards towards other possible targets. Failing to take a polygraph in many cases can divert resources sufficiently long enough to allow the guilty to get away.

    Oh, and you cannot generally "fail" it just be being nervous. That's not how they work. Now, if the examiner is a dolt and untrained, I suppose that can happen. But, that is uncommon. Oh, and it is not a "pass" or "fail", it merely indicates the possibility of deception or not. A good examiner can account for that and will come back to the question to clarify some issues surrounding it.

    At least where I am from it is not admissable in court for proof but they will use it to grill you more.
    That's the case everywhere in the US - it is inadmissible ... though the questions and responses ARE.

    Screw the police. All you have to ever say to the police is your name and address. Police just want to harass people.
    Yeah ... good idea ... "screw the police" ... good idea to avoid suspicion if you are innocent. Sure, you have a legal right not to talk to them, but if they think you are a suspect and a simple explanation can get you out of their crosshairs, why not talk to them? But, if you like living under the microscope, go ahead.

    I bet if you were a victim of a crime you'd like to have people cooperating with the police to help them solve the crime rather than have them distracted by misdirection. But, then, maybe you wouldn't.

    Oh, and you got me ... boy, you're right ... I wake up every morning wondering just who I can "harass" that day. That's what I do! I harass people every day. After all, I have nothing else to do.

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    Have you seen the video I linked Carl. The first part is great, The part with the cop, not so much.

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