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    Default Re-Open Unemployment After Leaving Week Long Job

    I had been on unemloyment for the last 2 months. I found a job in sales and marketing and decided to take it. The job was very different than was described. It was a cold call job with no human interaction and a computer checking how many calls I made a day. There was practically no conversation (or training) except from a 2 sentence script. The other employees did not communicate with me, making the atmosphere somewhat hostile. This was very different from the initial description of the job. I want to retain unempolyment benefits I was receiving. I only wokred on this job for one week. I chose not to continue the week after based on the working conditions.

    I answered the telephone inquiry (teleserve) truthfully for unempolyment and said that I left the job voluntarily. Now I have to plead my case on keeping unemployment. How can I retain my previous benefits? What should I say in legal terms that would help?

    I am located in Chicago, IL.

    Thank you...

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    I had been on unemloyment for the last 2 months. I found a job in sales and marketing and decided to take it. The job was very different than was described. It was a cold call job with no human interaction and a computer checking how many calls I made a day. There was practically no conversation (or training) except from a 2 sentence script. The other employees did not communicate with me, making the atmosphere somewhat hostile. This was very different from the initial description of the job. I want to retain unempolyment benefits I was receiving. I only wokred on this job for one week. I chose not to continue the week after based on the working conditions.

    I answered the telephone inquiry (teleserve) truthfully for unempolyment and said that I left the job voluntarily. Now I have to plead my case on keeping unemployment. How can I retain my previous benefits? What should I say in legal terms that would help?

    I am located in Chicago, IL.

    Thank you...
    There ins't anything to say in legal terms. From what little you have posted, you didn't have a valid reason for leaving as far as unemployment is concerned.

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    There ins't anything to say in legal terms. From what little you have posted, you didn't have a valid reason for leaving as far as unemployment is concerned.
    The job was a hostile environment and not at all what they depicted. Is this not reason enough? Is there a certain way to describe it when I'm with an unemployment representative?

    Or are you saying I should just explain it in plain english and hope for the best?

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    Just tell the truth again as you did previously- that is all you can do. You did quit the job. However, it will be up to the "state" to decide if you had "good cause" to quit & it never hurts to appeal. Don't get your hopes up though.

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    You want legal terms? I'll give you legal terms. Terms NOT to use unless you want to REALLY kill your case.

    A hostile work environment exists when, and only when, you are being subjected to either sexual harassment or illegal discrimination under Title VII and related laws (race, religion, national origin etc.).

    I would definitely not go into that hearing claiming you were in an HWE unless you can back it up using the definition above because I guarantee you that the ALJ knows the legal definition and you will not be helping your case, which is extremely weak to begin with, by claiming an illegal situation existed that didn't.

    If you had REALLY been in an HWE that might have been enough, depending on state law. But from what you describe, you were not even close to a legal HWE. Nothing you have posted gives me any confidence whatsoever that you will prevail on appeal. Other employees not communicating with you is NOT a hostile work environment. Not giving you what you consider sufficient training is NOT a hostile work environment. The job not being what you expected is NOT a hostile work environment. None of those things is sufficient to quit and collect benefits, either, but if you try to claim an HWE based on what you've posted you'll hurt your case, not help it.

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    If you had REALLY been in an HWE that might have been enough, depending on state law. But from what you describe, you were not even close to a legal HWE. Nothing you have posted gives me any confidence whatsoever that you will prevail on appeal. Other employees not communicating with you is NOT a hostile work environment. Not giving you what you consider sufficient training is NOT a hostile work environment. The job not being what you expected is NOT a hostile work environment. None of those things is sufficient to quit and collect benefits, either, but if you try to claim an HWE based on what you've posted you'll hurt your case, not help it.
    Wow... I was obviously looking for advice, not a slap in the face by an e-bully. Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

    I am also obviously not aware of legal rhetoric and used hostil work environment in the wrong context. Don't really know why that made you upset, but apparently it sounds like it did... ie "Nothing you have posted gives me any confidence whatsoever that you will prevail on appeal."

    Thank you for knocking me down and not providing any insightful suggestions. I hope you're not always like this with all of your posts.

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    Just tell the truth again as you did previously- that is all you can do. You did quit the job. However, it will be up to the "state" to decide if you had "good cause" to quit & it never hurts to appeal. Don't get your hopes up though.
    Thank you betty. That's kind of what I was figuring, but I just wanted to hear someone else say it.

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    And here I thought I was trying to help you not kill your own case by making a claim you couldn't support. You specifially asked about legal terms and that's exactly what I responded to.

    Sorry I bothered you. I won't make that mistake in future. You're on your own.

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    cbg was really just trying to help you. She didn't want you to use HWE because they would hurt your appeal.

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    And here I thought I was trying to help you not kill your own case by making a claim you couldn't support. You specifially asked about legal terms and that's exactly what I responded to.

    Sorry I bothered you. I won't make that mistake in future. You're on your own.
    I greatly apologize. I completely misread your response and I've been very stressed out about this whole situation and supporting myself with my savings.

    I did NOT at all mean to jump at you, although that's exactly what I did. I feel like a fool, because you were only giving me great advice.

    Please except my apology. I was trying to defend myself because I felt like I was being attacked, and now I realize it was all in my head.

    (why am I not able to edit my previous post? I want to delete everything and write, "I am a fool who bites the hand helping him", but the edit button is gone.)

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    Your apology is accepted.

    And since you were gracious enough to offer it, I'll explain about the edit button.

    It is only there for a limited time after you post - I think it's about half an hour or so. After that, editing is reserved for moderators.

    I don't know why. Aaron?

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