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    Default Re: Why Did This Guy Get Away with Everything

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    A couple weeks ago, when I was biking to the store, I saw this one guy with a bike exactly like my boyfriend’s that got stole some time ago. So I rode ahead and stopped in front of him. He end up stop and when I tried to talk with him, he just acted dumb and never say a word.
    You mean, the hearing impaired guy acted like he couldn't hear you? To think....

    Acted dumb.... Not the most considerate choice of words under the circumstances, but are you aware of the etymology? The historic term "dumb", as in "deaf and dumb", later evolving into "deaf and mute", refers to the fact that some hearing impaired people are unable to talk.
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    Since this guy look easily intimidated and my boyfriend hate polices. We decided to try talk to him in civil manner first.
    So you hate the police, and didn't do the responsible thing and call them. Instead you and your boyfriend decided that, since the guy looked "easily intimidated", to intimidate him.
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    When we finally saw him again, I rode up to him and stopped him again. He tried same thing again,
    You mean, the hearing impaired guy again acted like he couldn't hear you? I'm shocked.
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    but my boyfriend wouldn’t have any of it so he got in this guy’s face and started to yell at him, hoping to scare him into talk.
    Because he looked easily intimidated.
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    This guy finally tried to pull phone out and since we doesn’t want to deal with polices, my boyfriend push the phone away and grasp him by shirt.
    So rather than letting this guy call the police, your boyfriend committed a criminal assault, among other possible offenses, because you don't want to involve the police in, say, investigating alleged crimes and confronting alleged offenders (who you prefer to intimidate).
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    This guy tried to use phone again so my boyfriend shoved him down along with the bike.
    Because when you've already committed a crime, why not "double down".
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    Realizing he was being too rough, my boyfriend apologized and tried to go to help him up, but the guy stood up and start to attack my boyfriend.
    This would be what they call "self-defense". I realize that you think the hearing impaired guy should have realized that, after twice battering him and intentionally trying to prevent him from calling the police, your boyfriend was apologizing, but funny a funny thing about hearing impairments is that they prevent people from hearing everything.
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    It ends up with my boyfriend having fractured eye orbit, broken nose, and a fractured femur that require surgery and cause him to lose his job. My arm was broke and two of my teeth got knocked out when I tried to stop the fight.
    Or, more like, you attacked the guy screaming something like, "Stop hitting my boyfriend". Which he probably couldn't hear, because he's hearing impaired.
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    When the police came, it turned out this guy is deaf and the bike was his.
    You mean, wow, the police were able to quickly determine that you were dead wrong, and that your hunting this guy down, your attempts at intimidation, and your boyfriend's two unprovoked batteries were completely unjustified? The police can do that? I can see why you hate them so much.
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    He says he was trying to use phone to communication with us via text. To our disgust, he was let go.
    And likely to his disgust, you were let go.
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    Once the witness started to talk, almost all says my boyfriend started the fight.
    That's hardly a surprise. You said that your boyfriend started the fight. Twice.
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    But my boyfriend never dealed the first blow...
    The first blow: "my boyfriend push the phone away and grasp him by shirt"

    The second blow: "my boyfriend shoved him down along with the bike."
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    ...and it was just all a horrible mistake...
    You mean, thinking that you can confront somebody in the street, intimidate them, and batter them when they don't give you their bicycle? Yes, that was a mistake. Not quite as big as the mistake of thinking that a world-class kick boxer would be "easily intimidated", but still pretty darn big.
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    It ended up with him not being guilt in self defend.
    When you accost somebody in the street and engage in two acts of battery, and forcibly prevent him from using his phone (whether to call the police or to communicate with you), that's not a particularly surprising outcome.
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    After that, when I and my boyfriend was about to leave the court, we saw him drove away in a car that my boyfriend say cost over a hundred grand of dollars.
    The nerve. He's hearing impaired, and yet he still has money?
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    When my boyfriend still have job, he made only $12 an hour and I make only 9 an hour. Now my boyfriend has a huge medicine bills to pay and still have no transport of any kind and won’t be able to walk without crutch for some time. While this guy has money and doesn’t even offer any sympathy or help with the bills.
    You mean the guy you needlessly confronted, twice battered, and demanded turn his bicycle over to you, because you hate the police? Then tried to prosecute for defending himself? He didn't feel sorry for you?
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    Why would they let this guy get away with everything?
    Well, here's a wild guess: Because you and your boyfriend confronted with the intention of intimidating him and battered him in an attempt to force him to give you his bicycle, while nothing would have happened had your boyfriend not battered him or if you had the good sense to call the police and learn, non-violently, that the bicycle was his.

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