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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Personal Loans Via Online Poker Sites

    I realize that you're going to do everything you can to blame other people for your own bad actions, to try to justify ripping them off, but they didn't sell you cocaine. They loaned you money. You don't have to be very much smarter than a turnip to see the difference.

  2. #12
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    Quote Quoting neverdespair
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    But I didn't even come here to get criticized, I came here for an advice from good people who's ranks I would like to join.
    And we gave it to you.

    You choose to argue and tell us we're wrong. We can't make you do the right thing, we can't make you listen, and we can't make you like the advice.

    If you choose not to pay us any mind, if you have all of the answers, why are you here?

    Quote Quoting neverdespair
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    "In Illinois, it is Illegal to gamble online so it would be against Illinois public policy to enforce those debts"

    Untrue statement?
    Misleading.

    It would be against public policy to enforce debts to the House.

    You got loans from private individuals. You have an obligation to pay those, it doesn't matter what you used the money for.

    But you've already made up your mind that you don't have to, so again, why are you here?

  3. #13
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    Default Re: Personal Loans via Online Poker Sites

    I have promised (via Instant Messenger and PM on forums) to pay those funds back + interest on those funds. One guy sent me $600, another $1000, another $200 and $500.

    I have obviously lost those funds and cannot pay them back. I also do not want to pay them back, because these members knew I was not a winning player and used my gambling addiction to profit. They all sent me money in good faith and because of my credibility as being able to repay these loans
    You have no real clue as to whom you borrowed from, just faceless
    poker players on the internet . . . who could make collecting from
    you very interesting, 30% interest adds up pretty fast

    Find some way to pay them

  4. #14
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    Default Re: Personal Loans via Online Poker Sites

    Quote Quoting PJ Weber
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    You have no real clue as to whom you borrowed from, just faceless
    poker players on the internet . . . who could make collecting from
    you very interesting, 30% interest adds up pretty fast

    Find some way to pay them
    Exactly, I don't know and they don't even know my real name either.

    I was advised by two Illinois attorneys that they cannot collect anything from me. On top of that, just because in an Instant Message I have stated that I will pay 30% interest in 7 days, does not constitute me paying that interest (it is usurious) where the vehicle of transferring money is an illegal gambling site. No US court will listen to this case.

  5. #15
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    Default Re: Personal Loans via Online Poker Sites

    An Illinois court is not going to enforce a "30% every seven days" interest rate, even if it is otherwise willing to enforce a debt. That would violate state usury laws. If that amount is added every week, it's possible that a court would refuse to enforce the loan as against public policy on that ground. At the same time, your case for having the entire collection action dismissed, as opposed to its being reformed at a legal interest rate, is weakened by your report that you solicited loans at that rate.

  6. #16
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    Default Re: Personal Loans via Online Poker Sites

    Exactly, I don't know and they don't even know my real name either
    Your information could be found out without to
    much difficulty by those who know how
    was advised by two Illinois attorneys that they cannot collect anything from me. On top of that, just because in an Instant Message I have stated that I will pay 30% interest in 7 days, does not constitute me paying that interest (it is usurious) where the vehicle of transferring money is an illegal gambling site. No US court will listen to this case.
    Tell that to some of the 'families' on the east coast

    You may get away with this due to the low amounts . . . although
    at 30% interest the amout could be deemed collectable

    You could have borrowed from Tony Soprano

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