Can a Child Give Somebody Permission to Enter a Home

[blueeagle]

I still do not know if the 2 men were armed or not??

This I would like an answer to if anyone knows?

As far as I know, they were unarmed, but regardless, he was clearly within his rights. You should know this.

[blueeagle]

Joe Horn claims that he was in fear for his life. Anybody who is either slightly honest or slightly intelligent, having heard the 911 tape, knows that to be a lie. So either the grand jury was full of Texas-sized idiots, or it was a classic case of jury nullification.

You're wrong. It's a rare case where the justice system actually worked!!!! Joe Horn didn't violate any of our law!! Why should a grad jury indict a man who committed no crime????

[kist]

Don't get mad I do see your point. I have a few major problems here. Killings during burgelry are at extreamly low levels. There was a time when killing the homeowners was the first step in the process. Now this isn't something we can or should control however if there is a sense among the criminal element that their lives are at risk it won't stop criminals it will just make them more prone to use violence first. Criminals tend to be younger, faster and far more ruthless then homeowners plus they usually work in groups, This puts the homeowner at more risk.

Not only that the police had arrived and witnessed the shooting. It could happen that the police shoot horn or a confused horn shoots the police or someone gets caught in the cross fire, like a small child watching from a window. Gun play shouldn't be taken lightly.

As for grand juries well... I believe we are the only country to still use them, they became outdated a hundred years ago. Horn had public sentiment on his side but was justice served by this decisions? I didn't want to see the man sent to prison so mucg as I hoped an example could be set

[BOR]

As for grand juries well... I believe we are the only country to still use them, they became outdated a hundred years ago.

The feds are bound to use them, but GJ Indictment's are not applicable to the states, so it is an individual choice there.

Some states have BOTH Preliminary hearings and GJ Indictments for felonies.

They are not outdated, at least in my opinion, as they are a probable cause basis before one can be brought to trial. If I were a DF that was charged with a felony, I would want as many PC hearings as the law allows.

[blueeagle]

Kist, here's a video for ya!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ5WW...eature=related

LONG LIVE JOE HORN!!

[kist]

Here is the police report Bor http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/orig...report0001.pdf

[blueeagle]

Here is the police report Bor http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/orig...report0001.pdf

Big deal! They were unarmed! So what? How was he to know this? They could have had a gun hidden in their baggy pants!!!

[kist]

The feds are bound to use them, but GJ Indictment's are not applicable to the states, so it is an individual choice there.

Some states have BOTH Preliminary hearings and GJ Indictments for felonies.

They are not outdated, at least in my opinion, as they are a probable cause basis before one can be brought to trial. If I were a DF that was charged with a felony, I would want as many PC hearings as the law allows.

If you were facing potential criminal charges the last thing you would want is a grand jury completely controlled by the prosecutor. In the words of Judge Sol Wachtler, "A prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to "indict a ham sandwich."

[blueeagle]

If you were facing potential criminal charges the last thing you would want is a grand jury completely controlled by the prosecutor. In the words of Judge Sol Wachtler, "A prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to "indict a ham sandwich."

Well we agree on something!! In Joe's case it's obvious the grand jury was NOT motivated by the prosecutor.

[BOR]

Here is the police report Bor http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/orig...report0001.pdf

Thanks, I'll check it out.