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    Default Song Lyrics as a Violation of Restraining Orders

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Florida

    My question is about restraining orders, could song lyrics be deemed as violation of a restraining order, I was just curious, I'm talking about lyrics like

    " I know there is a restraining order between you and me,
    but I just wanted to know how you're doing. "

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    Default Re: A Question About Restraining Orders

    A restraining order says you may have no contact.

    Singing it does not change that restraint.

    A judge would see this as a very transparent attempt to circumnavigate the law. Judges do not like that.

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    Default Re: A Question About Restraining Orders

    "No contact" usually means "no contact" whether it be talking, singing, or yelling.

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    Default Re: Song Lyrics as a Violation of Restraining Orders

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    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Florida

    My question is about restraining orders, could song lyrics be deemed as violation of a restraining order, I was just curious, I'm talking about lyrics like

    " I know there is a restraining order between you and me,
    but I just wanted to know how you're doing. "

    Possible, but then again we have a 1st Amendment concern for your rights also.

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    Default Re: Song Lyrics as a Violation of Restraining Orders

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    Possible, but then again we have a 1st Amendment concern for your rights also.
    Except that the judge has limited his first amendment rights here as a result of the order.

    The lyrics, as stated, are obviously trying to work around the order.

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    Default Re: Song Lyrics as a Violation of Restraining Orders

    Well how would lyrics like " Lets talk to eachother " be deemed as a violation, I mean there are so many songs out there that are similar to that that it'd be hard to determine what they mean, just listen to todays hard rock songs, any of those artists could be trying to construe a message of contact, how do you know whether or not they are trying to contact somebody they are not supposed to be contacting.

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    Default Re: Song Lyrics as a Violation of Restraining Orders

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    Well how would lyrics like " Lets talk to eachother " be deemed as a violation, I mean there are so many songs out there that are similar to that that it'd be hard to determine what they mean, just listen to todays hard rock songs, any of those artists could be trying to construe a message of contact, how do you know whether or not they are trying to contact somebody they are not supposed to be contacting.
    Let's not intentionally be a moron, okay?

    If these lyrics are not directed towards the person the restraining order names...

    " I know there is a restraining order between you and me,
    but I just wanted to know how you're doing. "
    then to whom is it directed?

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    Default Re: Song Lyrics as a Violation of Restraining Orders

    It's not directed at anybody, it's the intention of the lyrics that I'd hope would construe a message of contact, the person I would not be allowed to contact would have to assume it was about them in order for the message to reach them.

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    It's not directed at anybody, it's the intention of the lyrics that I'd hope would construe a message of contact, the person I would not be allowed to contact would have to assume it was about them in order for the message to reach them.
    You keep trying to rework the question until you get the magic "yes".

    It won't change.

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    Default Re: Song Lyrics as a Violation of Restraining Orders

    But if the lyrics were " I need to talk to you ", how would they know who I was referring to if I didn't mention there name ?

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