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    Default Re: Is This Felony Battery if Charged?

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    Oh no, the fight was 100% based on the fact that he was a hot tempered violent person and he attacked me.
    And you aren't?

    There's a big difference between standing up for what's right and saying things to people who are already angry.

    Discretion is the better part of valor, not the ability to provoke people and get away with it.

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    Do NOT ignore abusive relationships! My close friend was killed because nobody said anything. Put the pressure on and ask questions and voice your opinion. Don't let it go in silence.
    Including your friend. The tricky part of abusive relationships is that even despite all of the "help" of the outside world, it's ultimately left to the parties who choose to remain in them.

    We can't force people not to be mean to each other. We can't force them not to make up with each other and let the cycle repeat.

    It's a complicated issue, but just saying something hasn't yet seemed to stop it, unfortunately.

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    I did not know that he was the one who allegedly hit her or I would have never said anything about it. I was just asking her about it b/c her dad said they were separated and as i said before, I put my foot in my mouth. I made peace (I thought) and walked away.Then he attacked.
    Just because I defended myself does not make me violent.This was the first fight I have ever been in and I was scared the whole time. I hated it. I feel sorry for the guy, I didn't mean to hurt him that bad but he wouldn't quit.

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    Including your friend. The tricky part of abusive relationships is that even despite all of the "help" of the outside world, it's ultimately left to the parties who choose to remain in them.

    We can't force people not to be mean to each other. We can't force them not to make up with each other and let the cycle repeat.

    It's a complicated issue, but just saying something hasn't yet seemed to stop it, unfortunately.
    You know, your right, just wishful thinking and my case proves that it can have VERY undesirable results. Saying something complicated it worse in this case. I would still make it a point to encourage a victim (in private of course) to get out and stay out of the relationship. But like you said, it's their choice.
    Thanks again, this helped alot.

    Why do people hurt the people that they are supposed to protect?

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    Why do people hurt the people that they are supposed to protect?
    I don't know that he's supposed to protect anyone. But lots of people have problems, which is why we have so many criminal laws around.

    I suspect it has something to do with people failing to understand that their wants and desires (or even rights) stop where the wants and desires of other people take precedence. Something like they think that because they want to do something, it gives them some kind of divine mandate to do it.

    It's like people on the interstate changing lanes to get that half car length ahead: clearly, they think their time is more important than anyone else's and what they need to do is more important than anyone else's.

    But this is a topic we aren't likely to resolve here.

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    I don't know that he's supposed to protect anyone.
    It's the right thing to do. If you love someone and start a family with them then as long as you are a couple then you protect your family the best you can.

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