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    Default Girl 17 Gets Life Sex Offender Status for Sex with Boy 15

    Welcome to the Fascist States of America

    Turned in by an uneducated , now regretful mom.

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    Welcome to the Fascist States of America

    Turned in by an uneducated , now regretful mom.

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    Did you have a question? Or are you just here to rant?

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    No sir I do not have a question but rather a statement. Which I felt, maybe incorrectly, that might interest some involved in the topic or searching for information.

    Adding teens to the offenders list helps no one and waters gown the effectiveness of the list, worse then that teens don't understand the dangers. A full one half of teenagers have sex before legal age. I thought I'd try to warn a few teens now so that we don't end up with one half of all teenages on that list. They got a lot going against them all ready. However i think I overdid it with my political comment and out of respect to you I will remove that.

    EDIT I see I can't remove it. However, people will each decide if I'm being overly critical or using hyperbole to make a point. I assure you no one will change their opinion on our country based on my remark.

    "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
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    No sir I do not have a question but rather a statement. Which I felt, maybe incorrectly, that might interest some involved in the topic or searching for information.

    Adding teens to the offenders list helps no one and waters gown the effectiveness of the list, worse then that teens don't understand the dangers. A full one half of teenagers have sex before legal age. I thought I'd try to warn a few teens now so that we don't end up with one half of all teenagers on that list. They got a lot going against them all ready. However i think I overdid it with my political comment and out of respect to you I will remove that.

    EDIT I see I can't remove it. However, people will each decide if I'm being overly critical or using hyperbole to make a point. I assure you no one will change their opinion on our country based on my remark.

    "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
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    This site is geared towards the discussion of legal topics as they are and not generally about political utopias. Not every state has a "Romeo and Juliet" exception law - nor should they. The age has to be set somewhere ... in some states, that age is very low. We are not always going to agree with the age so long as it is not a national age of consent. And, as is the way of our legal system, it is currently the states that make these decisions. You can disagree with it all you want. But, if you want to disagree with the law as posted, there are two threads at the bottom of the forums page where you can voice those opinions, wishes and desires. These boards are ostensibly for the discussion of the laws as it stands, and for people to ask questions about the law and not to make statements.

    I have no problem with you taking a position that two minors above 14 and within two or three years of each other should not have to register as sex offenders for a consensual sex act (provided that IS what you are advocating), but this is not the law everywhere.

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    The problem would be that she entered a guilty plea to this statute:
    Quote Quoting Wisconsin Statutes, 948.05 Sexual exploitation of a child.
    (1) Whoever does any of the following with knowledge of the character and content of the sexually explicit conduct involving the child may be penalized under sub. (2p):
    (a) Employs, uses, persuades, induces, entices, or coerces any child to engage in sexually explicit conduct for the purpose of recording or displaying in any way the conduct.

    (b) Records or displays in any way a child engaged in sexually explicit conduct.
    (1m) Whoever produces, performs in, profits from, promotes, imports into the state, reproduces, advertises, sells, distributes, or possesses with intent to sell or distribute, any recording of a child engaging in sexually explicit conduct may be penalized under sub. (2p) if the person knows the character and content of the sexually explicit conduct involving the child and if the person knows or reasonably should know that the child engaging in the sexually explicit conduct has not attained the age of 18 years.

    (2) A person responsible for a child's welfare who knowingly permits, allows or encourages the child to engage in sexually explicit conduct for a purpose proscribed in sub. (1) (a) or (b) or (1m) may be penalized under sub. (2p).

    (2p)
    (a) Except as provided in par. (b), a person who violates sub. (1), (1m), or (2) is guilty of a Class C felony.

    (b) A person who violates sub. (1), (1m), or (2) is guilty of a Class F felony if the person is under 18 years of age when the offense occurs.
    (3) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution for violation of sub. (1) (a) or (b) or (2) if the defendant had reasonable cause to believe that the child had attained the age of 18 years. A defendant who raises this affirmative defense has the burden of proving this defense by a preponderance of the evidence.
    It's not unreasonable to expect that a person convicted under that statute would be deserving of registration as a sex offender.

    The article makes clear that she faces fifteen years of registration, not life:
    Waupaca County Circuit Judge John Hoffmann, who heard her case, sentenced Simons to four years of probation and ordered her on the registry, where she must remain for 15 years.

    "For what she was convicted of, it was mandatory sex offender registration, which I had to impose," Hoffmann said.
    The best solution here would probably be to give judges more flexibility to decide who should or should not be on the sex offender registry.

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    I checked the registry and did not find her name.

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    Jenna Simons, 19, of Waupaca was convicted of a sex crime when she was 17, after a consensual sexual encounter with a 15-year-old girl and 20-year-old man. She had no idea her plea would land her on the Wisconsin Sex Offender Registry.


    I find that last sentence a tad hard to believe.

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    I find that last sentence a tad hard to believe.
    Exactly. How could she have not?

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    I checked the registry and did not find her name.
    Oh really??? Huh. This is probably just some shit-ass story dreamed up by the liberal media for the sole purpose of selling news papers.

    “Advertisements contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper.”

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    Default Re: Girl 17 Gets Life Sex Offender Status for Sex with Boy 15

    While searching for details about a nine year old placed on the SOR and in a fit of moral outrage after reading a bunch of these cases, some of which I found at this blog: http://hummingbunny.wordpress.com/20...1/teenage-sex/ some of which I already knew, and some I couldn't find. -A Chicago man is driving down the street when a teenager ran into his path. Narrowly missing hitting the child he jumps from his car angrily shouting and shoving the lad and as a result is placed on the SOR- I can't find it any longer so he might have won an appeal.

    15 years not life, I am sorry I missed that detail. Thank you for pointing it out.

    There is also this jewel in Utah 13 year old with 12 year old http://www.utcourts.gov/opinions/supopin/ZC071707.pdf

    And cdwjava am I to understand you support the criminalization of teenage sex? Shall we make it retroactive and remove all references of it from literature and movies art and music? Maybe kick off the festivities with a good old fashioned book burning?

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