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    Unhappy Caught at Kohl's

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Arizona

    I'm 19
    I got caught stealing a $30 necklace from Kohl's and was arrested taken to the police station where they checked my records and got my prints and all that and then given a ticket with the date of when to appear in court.
    The officer told me (when I started crying) that I didn't need to worry I wasn't going to jail and LP told me the same thing earlier.
    Now all this stuff I'm seeing is that I will most likely be serving jail time. Is that true or is that for major cases?
    This is my first time ever even dealing with anything remotely cop like, my record was clean and everything.
    Also do I really need a lawyer? The LP (was ridiculously helpful and nice) told me just to plead guilty and say I wanted to get it all done and over with as soon as possible. He said I might not even get probation.
    And now everything I'm reading is the exact opposite of what I was told by those immediately involved in the whole ordeal.

    Help please. I'm scared about the jail time suggestions I've been seeing.

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    panther10758 Guest

    Default Re: Caught at Kohl's

    The chances of your serving any jail time are almost zero.

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    Default Re: Caught at Kohl's

    Panther why say that? The judge can give jail time no matter what. The chance you will receive jail time is 50/50.

    Don't listen to bad advice from frequent posters.

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    panther10758 Guest

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    Ok how many first offense shopliters (percentage) actually get jailtime?

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    Default Re: Caught at Kohl's

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    Ok how many first offense shopliters (percentage) actually get jailtime?
    Not many shopliters get jail time. WTF is a shopliter?

    Also your question is flawed because it doesn't matter how many first offense shoplifters actually get jailtime. What matters is the law. The law says that if you commit a theft offense, you CAN receive jail time. It doesn't say a percentage receive jail time.

    Shoplifting in Arizona is usually a class 1 misdemeanor, which is punishable by a fine and jail time.

    So before you spout off about no jail time and civil demand etc, learn the law. What happens previously or after this OP has no bearing on what will happen to them. What happens if the judge is pissed off that day or the Kohls has a deal with the States Attorney to send all their shoplifters to jail? These are things you need to think about before you make horrible posts.

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    First time offenders rarely get jail time. I have read that in Arizona (and most states) you must be a serial shoplifter to actually receive significant jail time if any at all.

    Contact an attorney and see what your options are.

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    Quote Quoting bam!
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    Not many shopliters get jail time. WTF is a shopliter? .
    You knew exactly what Panther meant.

    Quote Quoting bam!
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    Also your question is flawed because it doesn't matter how many first offense shoplifters actually get jailtime. What matters is the law. The law says that if you commit a theft offense, you CAN receive jail time. It doesn't say a percentage receive jail time..
    You can also win the lottery or get struck by lightning. You can catch an STD from unprotected sex, or win at poker with a straight flush. (or a pair of twos)

    Advice given when figuring the odds is very good advice. (It's how I play poker, and I generally win.)

    (although, OP, to be fair, sometimes, even when the odds are in my favor, I lose)

    Playing the numbers is not a bad way to figure your chances in life. The numbers are against you when you steal from others, though, so, I hope this will be a good learning experience for you. (You are paying for this life lesson, after all...)

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    Quote Quoting bam!
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    Not many shopliters get jail time. WTF is a shopliter?

    Also your question is flawed because it doesn't matter how many first offense shoplifters actually get jailtime. What matters is the law. The law says that if you commit a theft offense, you CAN receive jail time. It doesn't say a percentage receive jail time.

    Shoplifting in Arizona is usually a class 1 misdemeanor, which is punishable by a fine and jail time.

    So before you spout off about no jail time and civil demand etc, learn the law. What happens previously or after this OP has no bearing on what will happen to them. What happens if the judge is pissed off that day or the Kohls has a deal with the States Attorney to send all their shoplifters to jail? These are things you need to think about before you make horrible posts.

    Bam, mind your tone please.

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    posters deserve accurate answers, not some lame post by someone with too much time on their hands.

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    ...and you're done here.

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