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    Default California Highway Patrol's Wrongful, Unprofessional Conduct

    I know this might not be the forum to present this issue, however, I take my case here to this public forum for all to review freely. My issue is the wrongful and unprofessional conduct of California Highway Patrol Officers.

    No less than four of my friends whom officers have pulled over for speeding offences have characterized the officer’s treatment of them as rude, arrogant, obtuse, malicious and vindictive. One even stated that on a 1 to 10 scale of rudeness, his officer was a 12! This abusive behavior is reckless, disrespectful and ends up doing harm to the reputation and public perception of CHP officers.

    I asked some local officers what they felt about CHP officers and they admitted that the CHP regularly abuses local citizens that are stopped on the highway. The CHP makes the local community police officers look bad. Unlike the CHP, the local officers have to deal with gangs and the CHPs attitude towards citizens only multiplies the danger to fellow officers.

    I would encourage an internal review and admonishment to all CHP officers that such behavior is completely unnecessary, not condoned nor tolerated. The CHP can perform its difficult and stressful job without the need for harassment of taxpaying citizens.

    I welcome your personal remarks regarding this matter.

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    Default Re: California Highway Patrol Wrongful Unprofessional Conduct

    We don't know what happened - you haven't told us.

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    Default Re: California Highway Patrol Wrongful Unprofessional Conduct

    I will put my feelings about the issue as follows.

    Until you are willing to place your blood, muscle, skin and bone between my family and the people that would harm them, your words don't mean very much.

    It is easy to critique those that enforce the law. You want men and women that have to WEAR A GUN TO WORK to protect themselves to worry about your feelings as you break the law.

    Sorry.

    You are upset because your feelings were not as carefully protected as you think they should have been.

    Maybe you should toughen up a little. Life has much larger valleys than this in store for you.

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    Default Re: California Highway Patrol's Wrongful, Unprofessional Conduct

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    I know this might not be the forum to present this issue, however, I take my case here to this public forum for all to review freely. My issue is the wrongful and unprofessional conduct of California Highway Patrol Officers.
    You have experience with each and every one of the thousands of CHP officers?

    No less than four of my friends whom officers have pulled over for speeding offences have characterized the officer’s treatment of them as rude,arrogant, obtuse, malicious and vindictive. One even stated that on a 1 to 10 scale of rudeness, his officer was a 12! This abusive behavior is reckless, disrespectful and ends up doing harm to the reputation and public perception of CHP officers.
    If they truly believe that, they can report this to the local CHP office. In fact, if true, they SHOULD report them.

    However, no one is happy about being ticketed, and most people argue with the officer about the citation. Some argue more vehemently than others. One technique to just diffuse or "blow off" the inevitable debate is to be short - terse and, perhaps, a little rude. When you stop dozens of people each day as the CHP does, you get tired of the debate, so you simply shrug it off and do not engage the driver. No, they should not act in such a way, but it happens.

    I have been stopped by the CHP (once upon a time before I was a cop) and my wife has been stopped twice AFTER I was a cop, and at no time were they ever unprofessional. One was short and terse, but he was not unprofessional. Being short and non-responsive is not the same as being rude or unprofessional, yet many people equate such a lack of engagement as rude behavior. Note the officer does NOT have to debate the driver about the citation ... in fact, he really has to say very little to the driver.

    I asked some local officers what they felt about CHP officers and they admitted that the CHP regularly abuses local citizens that are stopped on the highway.
    I don't buy that. If that really is the case, this is all the more reason for you and your friends to complain to the office.

    I would encourage an internal review and admonishment to all CHP officers that such behavior is completely unnecessary, not condoned nor tolerated. The CHP can perform its difficult and stressful job without the need for harassment of taxpaying citizens.
    You DO realize that until someone lets the CHP at that office or at the Area Command level know, no such investigation will take place, right? Until they are aware of a problem, the supervisors and management will be unable to address the matter. If this is a chronic issue, then several people need to march in and voice their complaints. If not, then they need to stop complaining. Either act to change it, or let it go.


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    Default Re: California Highway Patrol's Wrongful, Unprofessional Conduct

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    No less than four of my friends whom officers have pulled over for speeding offences
    I have had a CA driver's license for over 20 years.
    I have never received a ticket so I'm just wondering why your circle of friends have had so much contact with the CHP... ?
    When people violate the law they are going to be treated as law breakers. And just FYI - member's of the CHP are also law abiding and tax paying citizens as well.

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    That's true ... I am not sure that in my circle of friends (most of which are NOT cops), I know four people that have had CHP contact in the last couple of decades (or longer), either. Other than work, the last time I was stopped by a CHP officer was outside of Napa in 1984 ... yep, got a speed ticket - 65 in a 55. Nice guy, too. But I was not a happy camper!

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    Default Re: California Highway Patrol's Wrongful, Unprofessional Conduct

    If the OP and three of his closest friends all were pulled over by the CHP, I am guessing that none are older than 20.

    If a bunch of kids gives a traffic cop a bunch of lip, they can expect lip in return.

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    If the OP and three of his closest friends all were pulled over by the CHP, I am guessing that none are older than 20.

    If a bunch of kids gives a traffic cop a bunch of lip, they can expect lip in return.
    I would tend to concur.

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    Default Re: California Highway Patrol's Wrongful, Unprofessional Conduct

    There is no excuse for unprofessional behavior. NO EXCUSE.

    All jobs are somewhat stressful...all jobs require some work and thats why you get paid...

    However, if the job is so stressful where you have to give the customers a hard time then you have to change your job. You must quit and get yourself another job.

    If your a cop and cant help but act in an unprofessional manner because the job is too stressful then this job isnt for you. Quit and find something else to do...

    Do not give me excuses as to why your conduct is unprofessional. If you cant handle it then quit...

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    If you can't handle the behavior of the CHP then stop doing things that will get you to be involved with one.

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