Legal Theory And Politics: Nullification And States' Rights

[danielpalos]

Thank you! I had no idea what the hell he meant by this! The US constitution has existed long before the UN. We should be under no obligation to submit to the UN. The organization is about useless anyway.

Damn it! The man doesn't want the government telling him where he can and can't sell his crack! You can't blame him for looking for a loophole.

But seriously, Congress has authority to regulate all commerce. This right his granted under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitut....articlei.html

Regulation is not Prohibition. They are not interchangeable.

[danielpalos]

Never considered that. I always drugs were so expensive because they were illegal and difficult to acquire. I admit to not consuming drugs, so I really don't know about the whole economical situation. I can only speak from the lesson we learned from prohibition on alcohol. But haven't farmers been lobbying for years from the right to grow hemp? Wouldn't they have to lower prices in order to compete?

If our federal congress was actually concerned about family owned farms, they would have implemented policy similar to tobacco and let farmers use the proceeds to modernize their equipment.

[danielpalos]

I bet you would be surprised with the number of farmers who would jump on the chance to grow marijuana. They would be rich! Just expect to see food prices skyrocket as wheat and corn fields are replaced pot....

Would you support legalization of marijuana? Barry Cooper says the goverment outlawed in because a man testified before for Congress that it "drove white women to seek sexual relations with negros". If that the case, perhaps the law needs to be revisited? I haven't smoked since I was 18, but I fail to see the logic in outlawing a plant.

An opposing viewpoint would suggest that farm subsidies could be reduced if farmers are not paid to not grow certain crops.

[blueeagle]

Dan.

Do you consume illegal drugs? Answer the question!

[danielpalos]

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I don't know who Barry Cooper is, but I see all sorts of problems with it. It's illegal and its the second most accessible drug among kids ... imagine the problem if it becomes legal.

- Carl

It could be regulated in the same manner as any other legal drug. There is no such regulation currently because prohibition is not the same as regulation.

[cyjeff]

Danny Danny Danny.....

You are trying too hard again.

Show me where it talks about the UN Charter as supreme to the Constitution in either said Constitution or UN Charter.

Until it does, the contract the US Government has with the UN has no more legally demonstrable status than the contract the US Government has with Kraft Foods supplying the Commissaries.

In fact, less. Because the contract with Kraft, I am sure, outlines penalties involved if either party fails to uphold their end of the contract. The agreement with the UN doesn't.

See Iraq before our present confrontation. They liberally and routinely violated UN resolutions.... and the UN was not only not going to hold their feet to the fire, but had just elected Iraq to head the UN Human Rights council.

Maybe it had something to do with all that Money for Oil, thing? Whatever happened to that, anyway (shameless attempt to hijack thread)?

[danielpalos]

Dan.

Do you consume illegal drugs? Answer the question!

Marijuana was legalized in California by the Will of the People via a Constitutional amendment.

Our federal government does not have any specifically enumerated power to Prohibit interstate commerce, even if in the form of drugs.

[cyjeff]

It could be regulated in the same manner as any other legal drug. There is no such regulation currently because prohibition is not the same as regulation.

You have stated this falsehood often.

Prohibition is a form of regulation. You don't like it that it does, but it does.

You can regulate a product out of business. Take a legal drug with a nasty little side effect... like DDT. When the side effects were known, it was banned from the marketplace... via a regulatory body.

Even you have said that it is legal and permissible to ban certain products... I think the example I used was that the right to bear arms doesn not include nukes.

Danny... I know you had a lot of time in lockup to think about this... but it doesn't change anything.

[danielpalos]

Danny Danny Danny.....

You are trying too hard again.

Show me where it talks about the UN Charter as supreme to the Constitution in either said Constitution or UN Charter.

Until it does, the contract the US Government has with the UN has no more legally demonstrable status than the contract the US Government has with Kraft Foods supplying the Commissaries.

In fact, less. Because the contract with Kraft, I am sure, outlines penalties involved if either party fails to uphold their end of the contract. The agreement with the UN doesn't.

See Iraq before our present confrontation. They liberally and routinely violated UN resolutions.... and the UN was not only not going to hold their feet to the fire, but had just elected Iraq to head the UN Human Rights council.

Maybe it had something to do with all that Money for Oil, thing? Whatever happened to that, anyway (shameless attempt to hijack thread)?

Concerning treaties, Article 6 states: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

I am referring to the legal precedent being established concerning states' rights. The US is establishing that precedent concerning the right of the State of the United States to nullify the duly constituted interstate authority of the UN.

[cyjeff]

Marijuana was legalized in California by the Will of the People via a Constitutional amendment.

Our federal government does not have any specifically enumerated power to Prohibit interstate commerce, even if in the form of drugs.

That isn't an answer.

Do you take illegal substances? Have you ever been arrested for taking illegal substances? Have you ever been arrested for selling illegal substances?