Arkansas Grandparent Rights

[hurtinggrandmom]

Good Luck with that as the USSC ruling in Troxel will prevent that from happening. Further, parents like myself will be doing the opposite.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhhh!! That explains the reason for the type of replies! All is forgiven; for what one does not know or understand, one cannot properly give answers/replies! These children were attending church every week, regularly; now they do not, and the grandson has been in the type of trouble that is factual of foster children. Before they were stolen, they were good, well behaved children that were never in trouble at school, with the law, etc.

There is a great deal the American public, as a whole, does not understand, simply because they, the "system" has taken great care to keep it (the truth) hidden from them. Because these truths are horrific and will be dealt with. Have a beautiful day!

[Rushia]

Ahhhhh!! That explains the reason for the type of replies! All is forgiven; for what one does not know or understand, one cannot properly give answers/replies! These children were attending church every week, regularly; now they do not, and the grandson has been in the type of trouble that is factual of foster children. Before they were stolen, they were good, well behaved children that were never in trouble at school, with the law, etc.

There is a great deal the American public, as a whole, does not understand, simply because they, the "system" has taken great care to keep it (the truth) hidden from them. Because these truths are horrific and will be dealt with. Have a beautiful day!

I understand more than you think. I know more than most attorney's do about gpv. I am giving you the best advice you will recieve: DO NOT file a suit. You will lose.

[hurtinggrandmom]

I'm quite sure you do, and I do not question your legal knowledge; however, you do not know me, or our situation, or all the details, big and small, that CAN have an impact; or the evidence that I posses relating to this case. However, I do realize there are parents and grandparents out there that really do NOT need to be allowed access to their children; unfortunately, too many of those children go unprotected, and that is just a sad fact. I attend church with several wonderful foster parents; and foster children, that truly need a better home, couldn't ask for better than they!

The "suit" you refer to will be a nationwide suit and will not be pertaining to just "grandparents". but many issues in the family court system. It is not I that began the movement, but the issues I most definitely agree with.

[cyjeff]

I don't have a dog in this fight.

However, I will say that if you are digging up dirt on non involved parties to this issue in an attempt to influence the court, you are not helping your case.

I don't know why you would consider anything involving the judge's son to have merit, but this is completely inappropriate behavior in a courtroom.

This is what happens when you don't use an attorney. You shoot yourself in the foot playing "Matlock".

[LawResearcherMissy]

These children were attending church every week, regularly; now they do not,

This is your business...why, precisely? Hint: Church attendance has no bearing whatsoever on visitation requests.

Take the advice of Rushia and Cyjeff. Step back.

[hurtinggrandmom]

I think you all misunderstand! I uttered not a word in the courtroom; nor on any legal papers. No one but the caseworkers, therapists, attorneys were allowed to speak or testify. The judge merely went through the formalities specified; he had made his decision from day one. No one said church attendance had anything to do with visitation; merely a point of law. Much as I would love to, I WOULD HAVE NEVER said anything of such nature in the courtroom about those issues; sorry; just I was just trying to be brief in explaining a situation; didn't realize it would be so greatly misunderstood! I will not comment on the "advice", but thank you.

[LawResearcherMissy]

No one said church attendance had anything to do with visitation; merely a point of law.

Church is not a point of law, either. It's a point of personal preference.

But if you can explain how church is a point of law and has anything to do with what you want, I'm sure we'd be glad to hear it.

Much as I would love to, I WOULD HAVE NEVER said anything of such nature in the courtroom about those issues; sorry; just I was just trying to be brief in explaining a situation; didn't realize it would be so greatly misunderstood!

We understood just fine.

You brought up things in your...explanation...that were absolutely not germane to the topic at hand.

The judge's son is totally irrelevant.

[Rushia]

Church is not a point of law, either. It's a point of personal preference.

But if you can explain how church is a point of law and has anything to do with what you want, I'm sure we'd be glad to hear it.



We understood just fine.

You brought up things in your...explanation...that were absolutely not germane to the topic at hand.

The judge's son is totally irrelevant.

Just to further this: Op you admitted that your digging is the reason that you were deemed toxic.

In my last post, I realize how I sound, however from a legal standpoint you do not have a case to sue for gpv within your state guidelines. By your own admissions you are destroying any case that you have made for yourself.

As far as your "petiton", the USSC has already made it's decision in the matter. Please read Troxel. The parents rights will be protected. In the case of the child in question in this thread, if his grandfather adopts him, that makes him the childs father and you will have to respect his wishes.

[hurtinggrandmom]

http://www.state.ar.us/dhs/chilnfam/...lgation%20.PDF

Page 9, item #8

[hurtinggrandmom]

It was never my intention to file "suit" for gpv; I am merely exploring the laws of this state, and how they couldbe improved; it would take many, many signatures, a lot of paperwork, not to mention legal work, to even have something like that considered; however, considering the parties involved in the legal field and the ones who control it, it would definitely take more that one mere person to even get anyone to blink an eye on that issue! Unfortunatly, knowing my ex as I do, and so far his actions or lack therof so far to help the grandson, I fear greatly that the children will be taken from them because of their inability to provide a stable, loving home.