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    Default Marriage and Immigration Fraud

    When people (specific people), do things -in public- then the all and any peoples have a right to know. And know "exactly" who was involved. Who is involved. And what it is all about. People, places, and things. In a case involving the everyday layman -- certain respects must be taken into consideration. However, in the case here being talked about ... We are "Press People." The two individuals in this case are public "press people", myself included. The open book, as requested (in writing) by even the spouse involved. A real open book so to speak. Not bound by "private", or inside house, issues. Yet ... That all that is another issue not really to be looked at (for this moment).

    More important is the question - that was raised as the Issue: "who to go to (regarding the u.s. immigration department ) to have an "official form" for 'Withdrawal of Petitions' instituted" ? All of us should know as well -- many people (I have been told) face this same problem. No official form for a "official Withdrawal of Immigration Petitions" I-130, I-485, I-864 etc. -- So if some good could come out of it -- don't you think we should try to make it happen ??? Does anyone have any suggestions -- as to how to get a "Withdrawal of Petitions" (official) form put into place ??? Or who to go to - to make it happen ? Not to chase a go nowhere trial. Thank you for your time and considerations.

    A PSS: Although - regarding the privacy issue raised, when things are public knowledge there is no privacy issue that exists. Unless a vain attempt to try and protect those that act in what could be seen as unlawful manners -- or manners that reduce the "quality of family" to rubble. And the details shared in this situation are public matters and knowledge all around the world. "From Ocean to Ocean." Plus if a human being, especially in a so-called "Free America"- 1st Amendment right America, wants the full story known - it is their life -- and should be a right (respected). Don't you think ? Not covered-up ... or any sort of a cover-up. Limited truth is no truth at all. Just partial facts. That is the reason so many problems do exist in the world and why people get away with so many dirty things ... and why this world is barely suitable to bring new human beings into. Because a whole truth is not shared, known. That goes for many political circles too. Here we have available in this visa fraud and marriage fraud situation -- both sides of the story told. That of both spouses. If we are allowed to note the internet page "Fraud.html" cited elsewhere -- if we read the transcript; 1. you would see (at bottom of transcript) the video recorder is not asked to be turned off until the discussion is finished, and the 9-11 (2005) kiss is then discussed. Taped event occurs 9-13-2005. And it -the press- video recorder was running before the transcript began, events before walking to the chairs are include within the tape -- further it is noted it was the Fraud (the spouse) who asked to go and talk, again noted: In Public. So really: nothing private about all of that, and 2. if you see (on the "Fraud.html" transcript page) -In Plain Sight- there is the picture of the sign -on the stairs before entering the venue we were in- a sign that clearly says: Anything "can be used for (all public) ------ purposes (magazines, tv, etc. - even beyond that - think it goes as far as to indicate in a certain manner: for profit purposes also)" then -upon that notice placed in plain sight- we would also note anything that happened there is and was a public occurrence -- nothing private. No liability for any to concern with. Many people involved. As also it is outright the "biography" of the so many people involved in the event. Security personnel, etc. -- The other party -the other spouse in the event- "chose" to do all that on public media ground. So in fact it, this case open to discuss, is and was a "mutual" two party: Open Book. Plus email is not private unless specifically requested. And noted on page one of the reference Website -the spouse who later commits the Frauds- said make everything available to everyone "write the book", "write 2, 3 ,4 chapters." All on page one to the Reference Website (as those reqest were written) by her own hand. Again Not Private ! Was not said in jest. That was the beginning intention. And more importantly: The Intention of What Life wanted and had planned to happen. As it planned this. Remember, we "do not choose our parents" either. Life itself does have some say of what is to happen in the course of human events. And not all things are to be manipulated by Man. She -the fraud spouse- just did not realize how much life causes the True Self to show, or that she would be discovered sooner than she intended. Like the words "nothing" and "never" - is there any meaning (ever). "I will never leave you." "Nothing will stand between us." Nice inducing to get someone to marry. And easy way to gain National Benefits in 90 Days. A simple wedding ring. Sounds like a really good well planned Fraud to me. Although we are always to respect all requests, or at least consider them. Just a point of interest.

    And still the issue that is the Issue ....... there is no Official Form for the "Withdrawal of Petitions" i-130, "i-864", i-485. etc. - regarding the flow of people, "unknown" new immigrants, coming in and out of a Country, moreso this Country called America . Many times people are faced with this situation of not having a form to do a "Withdrawal of Petitions" and now it must stop. The greatest issue of all is the National Security issue that is involved and the threats this issue poses and can avoid. And also a paramount of how to make life secure for honest americans who do live in this country - there is the issue. Again thanks.

    Can anyone answer my question: Who to go too to get a official form for "Withdrawal of Petitions" put in place at the Department of Immigration Homeland Security and instituted for all America ??? BTW - if you want I will give you my full name if you want it posted with the details of this repsonse. Two years is the beginning of "known" or really getting to know a person. As is the difference of "unknown." Immigration requires a bona fide marriage to last, I think it is at least 2 years and 3 months (correct me if I am wrong). The reason for this is that is when you get to see what a person is really about -- over Time. As if real -- they will remain. The word discover comes into effect over a period of time, also. Could be in 3 or 5 months. People discover many times when it is too late and hearts are broken or people and terrorist hurt other people. A new person in our Country playing games - little is known, until they are found out. The World Trade Center taught that. Didn't it --

    quote: post 9-11-2001 .... Bureau of Diplomatic Security, U.S. Department of State, Special Agent Tom Depenbrock.

    I am here today to deliver a clear message. Marriage and visa fraud potentially threaten the nationalsecurity of the United States.

    The U.S. visa is one of the most coveted items in the world, and foreign nationals have acquired visas fraudulently to enter the United States. Also the danger Marriage Fraud Poses to the National Security is these crimes affect the American economy as well. These foreign nationals who enter the country and
    commit marriage fraud or any other type of fraud are defrauding the United States of immigration benefits to which they are not entitled. These crimes violate the legal immigration process. They also threaten the integrity of the system for others ... Marriage fraud also threatens Americans who live with a stranger who is
    now his or her new "spouse." We have seen instances where the foreign spouse has gained access to bank accounts and other personal information and left the American -- in trouble.

    Marriage fraud is a serious crime. Participants may think their single fraudulent marriage will not be discovered They threaten our national, economic, and personal security. In closing, I want to reemphasize the seriousness ... marriage and visa fraud ... bring ... consequences are far greater than the potential gains. Special Agent Tom Depenbrock, U.S. Department of State.

    Do enjoy the day. Totally ----

    but would love an answer to the question -- who to go to ... to get a official form for a "Withdrawal of Petitions" put in place at DHS. Congress, the Attorney General -- Who ??? Although, those people have their own problems. And surely can not go to the Pres., he like the others are too busy with their necks up to trouble in our more recently "famed" White House. Not possible for those people to really care about just regular American people. Am I wrong ? Best wishes. Much respect.

    In search of the answer. Time is not something to be wasted. And marriage Fraud as other frauds do exactly that: waste time. While others suffer the Fraud gets everything they want to get away with for years. 90 days they get all they want, meaning the spouse holding the bag has to suffer for years before someone does something about it. The "official" "Withdrawal of Petition" form is need now. For everyone. Let's make History.

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    It looks like part of this discussion was lost in the database crash. I had commented that, to the extent possible people should take care when they marry a foreign national that they are doing so to further a genuine relationship, and are not being exploited for immigration purposes.

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    It looks like part of this discussion was lost in the database crash. I had commented that, to the extent possible people should take care when they marry a foreign national that they are doing so to further a genuine relationship, and are not being exploited for immigration purposes.
    Dear author:
    Just to let you know, that in my city here in Knoxville, TN., I know about a scam ring about more the 60 people who committed fraud marriage for Green Card, some of them are already became US citizens, some still permanent residents, some temporary residents, and few are waiting for their interviews; believe it or not, non of them lived with their wives after the first interview, and all of them got divorced after they get their permanent Green Cards or citizenship, I challenge any one from the Government to show up to my house, and I’ll take them to these peoples places and show them the real fraud, I’ve called the ICE many times to report them, but they wouldn’t do anything, I share with these people their race but I don’t share with them their crimes, it is a series problem that needs the ICE to act about, I am open to any investigations by the Government.

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