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    Question Getting Authorization To Take A Child On An Overseas Trip

    CAlifornia -
    I want to take our 14 year old child out of the country for 2 weeks this summer. I sent my X - her dad - a complete schedule of where we will be when, flight info. etc. along with a letter for him to sign and have notarized giving his consent for me to travel internationally with our minor child. Oh yeah - and $10 bucks too for the notary fee. This trip will be FREE for our daughter so X will not incur any expenses.

    He has not returned the form to me and will not give child a definative answer if he will allow her to go or not. I am willing to risk the $100 fee for canceling as of now - but if we get to April that goes up to $2000 non-refundable from the deposit.

    I will be in court tomorrow (pro per) for a CS modification.
    Should I bring this up then?
    If not - is there any form I can file myself asking the court to decide if I can take her on this trip?
    Is there any way to expedite this?

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    Default Re: Will I Need A Lawyer To Do This?

    Its possible the Judge will not take up the issue as its unrelated as to that hearing. You have been on this site long enough to know its always best to have an Attorney at your side when in court. You can file the motion yourself but its better to have an Attorney deal with this

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    Default Re: Will I Need A Lawyer To Do This?

    sigh - I was afraid of that. I did not get a lawyer for the CS modification because $200 a month for 3 years in CS would have probably been eaten up in legal fees. I might just have to bite the bullet on this trip

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    Default Re: Getting Authorization To Take A Child On An Overseas Trip

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    CAlifornia -
    I want to take our 14 year old child out of the country for 2 weeks this summer. I sent my X - her dad - a complete schedule of where we will be when, flight info. etc. along with a letter for him to sign and have notarized giving his consent for me to travel internationally with our minor child. Oh yeah - and $10 bucks too for the notary fee. This trip will be FREE for our daughter so X will not incur any expenses.

    He has not returned the form to me and will not give child a definative answer if he will allow her to go or not. I am willing to risk the $100 fee for canceling as of now - but if we get to April that goes up to $2000 non-refundable from the deposit.

    I will be in court tomorrow (pro per) for a CS modification.
    Should I bring this up then?
    If not - is there any form I can file myself asking the court to decide if I can take her on this trip?
    Is there any way to expedite this?
    Before you file, try talking to your ex, maybe he will be more willing to agree if you make him an offer- maybe something like some extra visitation time or something that would make him "think" that he's doing himself a favor.

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    Default Re: Getting Authorization To Take A Child On An Overseas Trip

    He would not look at me let alone speak with me in court. I asked the judge if I could ask the court about the trip but he would not hear it as suspected. X told our daughter today that he would not give permission for her to go as it was too dangerous. We are not going anywhere that the state department has said is dangerous. I am seeing a lawyer next week to see if the lawyer will try to get us permission to go. XH is just making everything so much harder than it has to be .

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    Default Re: Getting Authorization To Take A Child On An Overseas Trip

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    He would not look at me let alone speak with me in court. I asked the judge if I could ask the court about the trip but he would not hear it as suspected. X told our daughter today that he would not give permission for her to go as it was too dangerous. We are not going anywhere that the state department has said is dangerous. I am seeing a lawyer next week to see if the lawyer will try to get us permission to go. XH is just making everything so much harder than it has to be .
    Actually, and I honestly don't mean to sound harsh, you made it hard. You should have done this BEFORE booking the trip. This is his child too and he has a right to have a part in where his child goes. Perhaps if you discussed this with him BEFOREHAND he might have been more agreeable.

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    I understand your point. This trip was first discussed between my side of the family last summer. Our daughter knew about the trip then. I was banned (by him) from calling, texting and even e-mailing him about anything several months ago. As an example he had to take her to the ER in January one night and left it to her to tell me the following day when he dropped her off in our parking lot instead of taking her to school as scheduled.

    When I had to take her back to the ER the next night I left him a voice mail and followed up with an e-mail when we got home. He sent back a nasty e=mail telling me to stop bothering him - that he knows everything going on in his daughter's life and does not want nor need my input.

    SO it was after that last family moment a few weeks ago I sent him the consent to travel form. This was before the deposit was due. When he did not return it I asked our daughter to call him to ensure he got it and make sure he knew the trip was free for her. BTW - this is one of the very few times I broke my own rule of not using the child as a messenger She did and confirmed he had the details.

    The reservation deadline was Saturday so my parents sent it in - not knowing that he had any objections to the trip. He heard me ask the judge about the trip in court and still did not tell me himself that he refused permission. He left it to our 14 year old to break the news.

    How do you co-parent when the other parent refuses to acknowledge your exsistence???

    HEY!!! Exactly what would happen to me if I went without his permission?? He never told ME no. He never told the court no. Our MSA says we both have full legal right to act independently of the other relating to our child... and says nothing about travel out of state. We went to Alaska in 2006 and Hawaii in 2007 without written consent. How do I KNOW that I can't go to Israel without permission?

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    I understand your point. This trip was first discussed between my side of the family last summer. Our daughter knew about the trip then. I was banned (by him) from calling, texting and even e-mailing him about anything several months ago. As an example he had to take her to the ER in January one night and left it to her to tell me the following day when he dropped her off in our parking lot instead of taking her to school as scheduled.

    When I had to take her back to the ER the next night I left him a voice mail and followed up with an e-mail when we got home. He sent back a nasty e=mail telling me to stop bothering him - that he knows everything going on in his daughter's life and does not want nor need my input.

    SO it was after that last family moment a few weeks ago I sent him the consent to travel form. This was before the deposit was due. When he did not return it I asked our daughter to call him to ensure he got it and make sure he knew the trip was free for her. BTW - this is one of the very few times I broke my own rule of not using the child as a messenger She did and confirmed he had the details.

    The reservation deadline was Saturday so my parents sent it in - not knowing that he had any objections to the trip. He heard me ask the judge about the trip in court and still did not tell me himself that he refused permission. He left it to our 14 year old to break the news.

    How do you co-parent when the other parent refuses to acknowledge your exsistence???

    HEY!!! Exactly what would happen to me if I went without his permission?? He never told ME no. He never told the court no. Our MSA says we both have full legal right to act independently of the other relating to our child... and says nothing about travel out of state. We went to Alaska in 2006 and Hawaii in 2007 without written consent. How do I KNOW that I can't go to Israel without permission?
    If you don't have a passport how will you take her out of the country? And even if you could he could flag her passport to prevent travel.

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