QUOTE]Your helping Dad here enable his daughters actions your only helping Dad to not face the reality of what happened
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Ah...no I'm not enabling anyone. I've stated SEVERAL times the reality, cruel as it is to him from my various posts. I GET that a child was raped. I get it all.
I'm not "helping to justify" HER actions at all. I'm pointing out HIS actions, he broke the law.As a parent I am surprised you are helping justifiy this felony!
I'm not trying to. He broke the law as well. Even if he were charged, it would not justify HER actions in the least.We know an adult raped a 14 year old minor nothing can change that or justify it
You tell me where you think I'm justifying this felony??? Because I think that all the crimes obviously committed that night should be filed? Right is right and wrong is wrong, I don't think the law should pick and choose which ones to enforce or not.As a parent I am surprised you are helping justifiy this felony!
One could say that by ignoring the facts that there were illegal activity going on the home owners house while they left their minor child home alone with questionable supervision would also cause denial on the parent of the victim that they did anything wrong as well. It goes both ways. Upsetdad may be in denial for YEARS, as well as upsetmom. That is something that he and he alone has to work out. It may or may not happen before her sentencing.We know little or nothing about the other issues and bringing them up in this fashion only gives Dad and his daughter more reason to deny her wrongdoing
Who is saying the wrong doings in the house are being ignored? That really is a separate issue concernig the wrong doing of the 24 year old.Quoting gigirle
We don't know that the parent's of the victim aren't feeling responsible for what has happened or if they legally are responsible.
The teen breaking the law has nothing to do with this thread. It is a totally different issue.
gigirl let me say if I mistook your intent I am sorry. I read your post I see unrelated issues and I see some of the excuses or explanations Dad gave for his daughters fleony actions. As Happy puts it we dont know what is being done about other issues I am sure they are being looked into. Tha tis not what this thread is about. My concern about your post was that Dad can take it as an enabling tool to justify (even if only in his own mind) his daughters actions. A child was raped and as a parent you realize how serious and life althering this is.
I'm not trying to justify her action here. I'm just saying we shouldn't judge the OP to harshly. He's only looking out for his daughter. Plus he has limited knowledge of the justice system; therefore, he doesn't understand how serious her actions are.
GIgirle I too (for even longer) have worked with those addicted and there is a genitic condition that often applies. Meaning the child of an alcoholic often becomes one. So this is apples and oranges. When I read upsetdad I see he doesn tunderstand the law and he is justifying his daughters actions. Its unlikely this is first time he has done so. Therefore I can see (one because I agree) that the daughter might not have been raised well. Its easy to make that connection. In many 22 years sober and the many rehabsm DUI schools and other work I have done I too see the famlies but the connection your making to this case isnt ther
Here's the bottom line folks - like it or lump it ... adult daughter committed a crime. Teenage son is the victim, even if some of us guys tend to gigve high fives and want to say, "Way ta go!" I suspect many say the same thing when some guy pops a cool wheelie down the street on a Kawasaki as well. We may think it's neat, but it is still a crime.
She committed a crime. She needs a lawyer. She will probably go to jail. That's the long and short of it.
- Carl
Carl, you honor us by posting here. I was wondering where you were... Would you arrest her had you been the officer called out?
If there had been sufficient probable cause to believe she committed a felony, yes. My arrest would not be based solely upon the statement of the juvenile victim and I doubt this arrest was, either. Chances are it had been corroborated by witnesses or even admitted to by the defendant.
The reason for an arrest as opposed to seeking a warrant (which would be preferred as that gives the state longer to build a case) is that under the circumstances, the suspect could be seen as a continuing "threat" to the community so it would be more or less imperative to get her off the streets and into the system rather than allow her to run loose and risk additional such assaults.
In the end, the DA will decide on the strength of the case. If she admitted to the intercourse or other sex acts, then she has little hope, here. If TN allows a defense to stat. rape by alleging a misrepresentation of age, and she can support that he alleged he was 18, then she MIGHT stand a chance. But, I do not think there are many states that allow that as a defense ... in most states the onus is entirely upon the adult.
- Carl