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    Why are sex offense cases so easy to get into the courtroom?

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    That is an opinion based on your limited expereince. Its doubtful you can get any real answer and if you do it will not change your case or its outcome

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    Why are sex offense cases so easy to get into the courtroom?
    Because "a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich", but they are the most difficult cases to gain convictions.

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    Because "a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich", but they are the most difficult cases to gain convictions.

    Thank you, my feelings exactly. The more I read I have come to realize that Social Services and Child Welfare are among the most corrupt systems out there. This is of course my limited PHD train of thought...

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    Our law enforcement is growing increasingly corrupt everyday. It saddens me how little is being done to prevent it. I guess nobody cares about civil rights anymore.

    The Great Blue Eagle.

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    Our law enforcement is growing increasingly corrupt everyday. It saddens me how little is being done to prevent it. I guess nobody cares about civil rights anymore.

    The Great Blue Eagle.
    Wait ... what??!?!

    How is filing alleged cases with the DA an indication of corruption?

    If someone reports a sexual assault, molestation, or rape, we expect the police to look into it and generally to forward their findings to the prosecutor and to child welfare offices as appropriately?

    Since when has THAT become defined as corruption?

    Last time I checked, detectives did not get a toaster or a microwave oven for filing a sex offense with the DA.

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    The complaint is made by the investigating officer and charges are filed by the DA. The victim and even his or her family do not HAVE to want anything done. If the state feels there is a case to pursue, then they can pursue it.

    Out here very few sex offenses make it to court because of the lack of evidence. I'd say maybe one in six that are reported to us get a filing, and most those are either disposed of with a plea or dropped by the DA before trial. Very few actually make it to a trial.

    As one who supervises sex crimes detectives, I have to say that these are often difficult cases to make. The accusations are easy, the proof can be tough.

    It is simply not true that these matters "easily" get into the courtroom. At least, such is the case in most of the country. There may be isolated prosecutors that are overzealous in these regards, but I suspect they are in the minority.

    But, keep in mind that a DA that does not at least file on a sex case where there exists probable cause to support an arrest is a DA that may not survive the next election. So, they might file on a decent case, but they may drop the matter if the defendant holds firm and no good evidence is forthcoming from the investigation.

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    Last time I checked, detectives did not get a toaster or a microwave oven for filing a sex offense with the DA.

    - Carl
    LOL ,,,, That was great for a good laugh.

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    How is filing alleged cases with the DA an indication of corruption?
    Never said it was
    If someone reports a sexual assault, molestation, or rape, we expect the police to look into it and generally to forward their findings to the prosecutor and to child welfare offices as appropriately?
    I agree with you. All I ask is the police refrain from rushing into cases. I can understand wanting to put violent offenders away, but lets make sure we catch the right person. To many innocent people have went to prison for crimes they didn't commit. Hardly a week goes by with out us hearing about some innocent man who was wrongfully convicted.

    Did you know that the innocence project has cleared almost 20 innocent men in Dallas alone? And did you also know that they are currently investigating 400 cases just from Dallas? I don't know what it's like in California, but in Texas we are dealing with a grave miscarriage of justice.

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    Because "a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich", but they are the most difficult cases to gain convictions.
    In many states - such as mine - the Grand Jury is not used for indictments out here - we usually use the DA.

    As pointed out, filing a charge is a far cry from succeeding at trial.

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