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    Default What Happens When Some Workers, But Not All, Want a Union

    I am a staff member at a university and have been so for the last 27yrs. In all the time I have been there, I have seen the union issue come up at least 3 other times beside this one that I know of. I have to be honest and say that in the last 15yrs, moral is low, we have a high turn over rate, revolving door with new employees leaving after a short time on job, harrassment etc. The workers have had it and feel that the administrative staff does not have their best interest at heart.

    Now all parties and staff members here are not interested in a union. But what I,m most concerned about is wether its legal for unions to form inside business with majority rule? A vote on having them will be done on the 14th of December and already folks want to know how you will vote. I never actually intended on voting cause I,m not interested but is this something to be concerned about? I just do not like the idea of someone telling me that I have to strike just because a group of people decided that they do not like the procedures of a business and they should be changed. Look at the writers strike. I was online in Wikipedia.com and I read all the different avenues that the writers strike effect. Its mind blowing how everything has come to a halt and that people have actually lost their jobs and do not have money coming in. Everybody is not rich like Jerry Seinfeld or Denzel Washington. Some of us have to work for a living.

    People should not have this much power. I think its wrong.

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    Default Re: Our Workers want a Union...some not all....what will happen?

    I am not a union fan however if you want one then contact them. The Union will tell you the process and help you and them arrange a vote

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    Default Re: Our Workers want a Union...some not all....what will happen?

    panther, they already have a vote scheduled for Dec 14.

    The laws vary depening on what state you are in, which you seemed to have left out.

    as a general rule, if the majority votes for a union, there will be a union. I happen to belong to a union and we cannot strike. It is written into out contract that way.

    When a strike is considered, the members take a strike vote. If it is not passed, there will be no strike. If the majority votes for it,. the could be IF the leadership deems it the best option. It is not an easy call to make and (hopefully) it is only as a last resort. I find most strikes in the current era are typically a waste of time and cause the membership more harm than help.

    Now, as to the " I just do not like the idea of someone telling me that I have to strike just because a group of people decided that they do not like the procedures " statement.
    You do realize that the country you live in runs by the same principals, don;t you?

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    panther10758 Guest

    Default Re: What Happens When Some Workers, But Not All, Want a Union

    Thanks JK I didnt see (still dont) where ther eis a Union presntly at Op's work. The doesnt change fact your accurate on this one

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    Default Re: What Happens When Some Workers, But Not All, Want a Union

    there is not a union currently. They are apparently having a vote for a union on Dec 14th.

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    sounds like a poor work environment.

    since you work for the government, and if you become a unionized unit at the university, you may not be able to legally strike.
    are there any other governmental units in your state that are unionized? what are their rights? you may want to talk to them.
    probably a quick call to the potential union will give you lots of answers.
    good luck. some questions would be about: can we legally strike? what experience do you have with universities? are you representating any other govermental units in the state? other states? and etc.....

    i guess you also have to ask yourself, will a union improve the moral in this environment? maybe it is just time for you to leave/transefer.

    good luck

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    Default Re: Our Workers want a Union...some not all....what will happen?

    Well, after working at such a prestigous place for over 27yrs, its mind boggling to think that anything like this would be necessary and to think they are actually getting these young officers to intimidate folks into believing that if they do not join, they will be fired. How in the hell will that happen to all these old folks who are about to retire and work in this department. Just does not make sense at all...not at all.

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    Default Re: What Happens When Some Workers, But Not All, Want a Union

    I recently found the answer to my question I was asking most of you. It seems that dispatchers who are certified with the state are not sworn officers, so all this stress about unions does not even apply to me. Thanks for your help though...I still learned some interesting things that I did not know.

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