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  1. #1
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    Default Accessory to shoplifter

    A "friend" put 3 pairs of sunglasses in my daughter's purse. When my daughter discovered this she gave the glasses back to the "friend" and told him no. He then asked another girl to put the glasses in her shopping bag. She said okay but she wouldn't hold the bag and gave it to him. He carried the bag out of the store and security brought them back into the store. Everything was on tape and they know that my daughter said no and didn't steal, however, they consider her an accessory. No charges were filed, however, the merchant is imposing a civil fine of $475.00. They retail value of the merchandise if $20.00. They cite California Penal Code 490.5 stating that first time minor offenders can be charged between $50 and $500.

    Isn't there another rule somewhere about the fine being proportionate to the value of the merchandise?

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    ops:

    I was caught shoplifting under $20 and received a civil demand of $200. I was told that they could fine me $50- 500. I assumed that i would be fined least possible ($50) but then i have been reading around online and they add in costs for the loss prevention etc etc. I would just be thankful no charges were pressed.

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    Default question...

    i was wondering what was the time span you recieved the civil demand letter from the store wanting $200 prior to when the shoplifting incident occured?
    i was caught today so should i expect a letter within a week or two?
    please i really need to know for i live with my parents. thank you!

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    Default Civil Demand

    If you don't like the amount of the civil demand, attempt to negotiate a lower amount from the store.

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    Default Civil Demand Letter

    The letter came within two weeks of the incident.

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    Default Civil Demand

    Thank you, Aaron. That is exactly what I am going to do.

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    Default Re: question...

    Quote Quoting confused1219
    i was wondering what was the time span you recieved the civil demand letter from the store wanting $200 prior to when the shoplifting incident occured?
    i was caught today so should i expect a letter within a week or two?
    please i really need to know for i live with my parents. thank you!
    ops:
    3 weeks. Believe me i was checking the mail everyday.

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    Default Re: Civil Demand

    Quote Quoting aaron
    If you don't like the amount of the civil demand, attempt to negotiate a lower amount from the store.
    ops:
    I was told that i could call and try to negotiate a lower amount for the civil demand but i didn't, i just paid it. (and im still hoping that no charges will be pressed against me) I think that it's kind of silly to try to negotiate a penalty for stealing since they are the victim not me. I don't know, just my thoughts. I was pretty surprised that they offered that to me also, considering that they have payment plans if you can't pay within their deadline.

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