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    No, my wanting our child to have a license is so that the child can be a regular person.
    I'm 63 and I've never gotten a driver's license. And yet all this time I've been under the (apparently mistaken) impression that I'm a regular person. Huh. How wrong we can be, sometimes!

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    Since pg1067 enjoys doing this to other people I thought he'd enjoy someone doing it to him.

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    I'm curious if you are uncertain of your child's gender and, if you aren't, why are you referring to him/her using plural pronouns?
    Whether the child is a boy or girl doesn't matter.

    I doubt it. Driver's ed can be done online. If Parent 1 signs the child up for an online driver's ed class, I don't see how, as a practical matter, Parent 2 could prevent the child from completing the class.
    The book part can be done online but at least in CA driver's ed must involve driving in a car with a trained instructor, which must be passed before going onto taking a DMV written and driving test.

    Of course, merely taking a driver's ed class doesn't get a child a driver's license, so I'm not sure if you intended to ask questions about the other steps in the process.
    Since you got the driver's ed part wrong it's probably better that you didn't answer any more questions.

    If "both parents are responsible for education choices," why are you referring to the other parent as "the custodial parent"?
    Does this question have relevance?

    The notion that a child needs a driver's license to "be a regular person" is absurd. High school kids' attitudes about getting their licenses have changed greatly over the past few decades. When I was in high school in the 80s, driver's ed was a required class, and pretty much everyone got their licenses within a week or two after turning 16. Nowadays, high school kids are much less concerned about getting their licenses. I have an 18 1/2 yo and an almost 17 yo. Neither has a license or much interest in getting one, and my 16 yo said only a few of her peer group are licensed. Of course, if your kid wants her license, that's all that really matters.
    My son is coming up on sixteen years old and is a few weeks from getting his driver's license. He has a large group of friends and nearly all of them are older than him and all of them have their driver's licenses. The only one that does not have a license is the one that doesn't do any outside sports like surf, skateboard, mountain bike, etc. He is the only one that likes to stay home, sit on a computer or phone and has no outside interests. He is also the only one whose mother likely could/would not purchase him a car like nearly all the other friends have. A coincidence?

    This talk of kids not wanting licenses, imo, is directly caused by them staying indoors 24/7 and sitting on the internet. Any kid that has outside interests gets tired of their parents shuttling them around... and the parents get tired of it too. And to take a leap, I think the internet, social media, gaming, U-tube, access to porn and the deadening of outside social interests has reduced their interest in girls too.

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    I'm 63 and I've never gotten a driver's license.
    That is nothing to brag about, nor is it normal.

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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Washington

    Not sure if this is the right thread location, but here we go.

    The other parent is declining our child's ability to do driver's ed. Of course without driver's ed our child cannot get a license until they are much older. Does one parent have the ability to not allow this? In the parenting plan both parents are responsible for education choices. But this becomes more than just the ability to drive. With a license, our child could drive themselves to and from the scheduled parents time rather than the parents. This is more of an issue, because the custodial parent has set limitations on when, and where, l can pick the child up (has to be immediately after school at 3 which is during most peoples working hours, including mine). I have agreed to supply the vehicle and insurance, making it a non cost factor.

    With all that said, can one parent be the deciding factor for driver's ed?
    Did the other parent give you a reason s/he objects to your child getting his/her license?

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    Default Re: Limiting Child's Abilities

    What's the age of this "child"?

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    Default Re: Limiting Child's Abilities

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    That is nothing to brag about, nor is it normal.
    Wow! You must have ESP or something! I had no idea I was bragging!

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    Did the other parent give you a reason s/he objects to your child getting his/her license?
    My guess is that there isn't any "reason." Like many divorces, there is hostility and neither side will give an inch to the other.

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    My guess is that there isn't any "reason." Like many divorces, there is hostility and neither side will give an inch to the other.
    Based on prior threads I am guessing that the other parent is just trying to make things as difficult as possible.

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    Default Re: Limiting Child's Abilities

    As mentioned by a previous comment, the gender of my child makes no difference. Apparently my attempt to create as lack of bias did not work, often times it will be noted that i am a father or mother and then the comments are made about that and go off subject.

    No, the other parent made no reason other than just stating they wouldn't allow our child to do driver's ed.

    The question came up about expenses, but i have already agreed, and commented that originally, to supply the vehicle and insure it.

    Living rural has been difficult for our child's upbringing, the ability to drive would assist in being able to look for work, visit friends, after school activities, things of the sort.

    And to be honest, i don't care if some of you think children don't need driver's licenses. I came here for the legal response, which was thankfully given

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    This talk of kids not wanting licenses, imo, is directly caused by them staying indoors 24/7 and sitting on the internet. Any kid that has outside interests gets tired of their parents shuttling them around... and the parents get tired of it too. And to take a leap, I think the internet, social media, gaming, U-tube, access to porn and the deadening of outside social interests has reduced their interest in girls too.
    Kids are human beings who have their own reasons, and those reasons are valid whatever the motivation is. My (now 33 year old) daughter had absolutely no desire to get her license at 16, even as she turned 17, it took some major cajoling to convince her of the utility of having it. She was (and is) one of the (if not THE) most outgoing and social people I know. She was not (and is not) a person to sit around indoors 24/7...not by a long shot.

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    Kids are human beings who have their own reasons, and those reasons are valid whatever the motivation is. My (now 33 year old) daughter had absolutely no desire to get her license at 16, even as she turned 17, it took some major cajoling to convince her of the utility of having it. She was (and is) one of the (if not THE) most outgoing and social people I know. She was not (and is not) a person to sit around indoors 24/7...not by a long shot.
    Then please explain why she did not want a license. It makes no sense to me...nor have I ever seen it from any generation other than the smart-phone kids.

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