Theft of Store Property Charge Against Wishes of Store Owner

[PayrolGuy]

I do not agree!

I once sent a letter to a judge during a murder trial that I was observing from the stands.

You weren't a party to the case and the letter was shared with all of the parties. And BTW...

Attention Readers,

Harold99 posts for no other reason than to take shots at senior members of the forum and lawyers in general. *It would be wise to ignore whatever he writes. While the person posting under the name of Harold99 has been banned from this site at least 3 times but, due to the current lack of moderation, he isn’t being banned. Hopefully, that will change in the future but for now, we have to live with it.

For now, I suggest you simply ignore his posts but if you do read them please read any responses posted by the more rational members.

[Cymulacra]

@Taxing Matters
1. A pedestrian commuter must be considered not wealthy, but destitute (get a civics course on the Konstitushun for clarification). I will be defending my impoverished self b/c a P.D. will warn the store to destroy videotapes such as showing me informing the store owner that the police are using a non-existent bicycle their robbery perp confessed to using in committing the robbery (abandoned by said videotaped criminal). The store would normally be sued for, effectively, NOT forcing me off the property, AND lying to me about the public good produced by my presence and actions in the incident, and thereby endangering me throughout.

2. The state was therefore allowed to attack a member of the public who was lured into an unknowing status about his legal propriety upon the premises, when a warning should have sufficed to prevent my return. After the chase, the Owner gave me the bike and I went home. I later tried to retrace the chase in a borrowed car, but the neighborhood is very complex and I ended up in the parking lot, which hours later still had the police units and chase participants lined up on the frontage. The Owner had copious opportunity to warn me of any change of heart towards me. AND, since when to local police go onto licensed private premises to effect ANY harm to the public without the Owner's assent? That is for the Feds, only.

3. The Dumpster Diving Ruling applies to virtually ALL abandoned items, valuable or not.

4. You are alleging that the state has the right to GIVE store property away to a robber of that store? Well, you ARE exquisite, aren't you! Can you conjure a public good to ascribe to that act?

[Zigner]

Sorry - I misspoke earlier. This poster is a real crazy steaming pile of dung.

[Harold99]

You weren't a party to the case and the letter was shared with all of the parties.

Then you must really have a problem with TM's comment that "it would likely be tossed in the trash."

But carry on with your comments that are backed with no legal or courtroom experience.

[Cymulacra]

Harold99 is technically correct (thanks, Harold99). I can best give my materials to the store Owner (or via civil atty, if one exists) for him to vet and if he knows what's good for him Owner will send it on to the Prosecutor for dismissal of charges. The Judge one real job is to enforce "presumption of innocence," and if I act guilty to him, he has only the ABA to worry about (unlikely.)

[Zigner]

Harold99 is technically correct (thanks, Harold99). I can best give my materials to the store Owner (or via civil atty, if one exists) for him to vet and if he knows what's good for him Owner will send it on to the Prosecutor for dismissal of charges. The Judge one real job is to enforce "presumption of innocence," and if I act guilty to him, he has only the ABA to worry about (unlikely.)

That's not how it works...that's not how any of this works.

[PayrolGuy]

Then you must really have a problem with TM's comment that "it would likely be tossed in the trash."

Murder case and a stolen bike case. Those are totally the same thing.

[RJR]

Anyway, I am citing SCOTUS Calif VS Greenwood 1988.

One aspect of Greenwood was the internal statement that reads under their own constitutions States can afford greater protection than the 4th AM provides?? Is this your reference that applies your facts?

[Harold99]

Murder case and a stolen bike case. Those are totally the same thing.

You are correct... in that no two cases are the "same thing."

Why don't you comment on what you have experience with? Also, let TM do his own responding. I'm sure he doesn't need you helping him out.

[PayrolGuy]

You are correct... in that no two cases are the "same thing."

Why don't you comment on what you have experience with? Also, let TM do his own responding. I'm sure he doesn't need you helping him out.

No, he doesn't but I'm treating you like a misbehaving child, trying to wear you out so you will go to sleep.