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    Default Is It Illegal to Ignore Someone Dying when You Can Save Them

    Does it matter if you are a legal adult or not in this case? Let's say someone is dying/about to die from hypoglycemia and they have diabetes. You have the ability to save them by giving them some sort of glucose shot or sugary substance, but you choose to ignore them knowing they will die. Would you face any legal consequences for this?

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    Default Re: Is It Illegal to Ignore Someone Dying when You Can Save Them

    It depends on where it occurs. Assuming you in the US, there are 50 states with potentially 50 different laws on the matter and the specifics can matter a great deal.

    Many states have laws that require you stop and render aid if involved in a traffic accident.
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    Many states have laws that require you stop and render aid if involved in a traffic accident.
    That's contained in the Driver's License Compact, not all states are members though.

    Of course persons have to stop to furnish ID, etc., injury or not.

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    That's contained in the Driver's License Compact, not all states are members though.
    That is NOT a provision you will find in the Driver's License Compact (DLC). I've linked the full text of the DLC and you'll see it says nothing of the kind.

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    Does it matter if you are a legal adult or not in this case? Let's say someone is dying/about to die from hypoglycemia and they have diabetes. You have the ability to save them by giving them some sort of glucose shot or sugary substance, but you choose to ignore them knowing they will die. Would you face any legal consequences for this?
    In general, in most states there is no duty for a stranger to render aid to another. But there are exceptions to that so the state and the exact circumstances matter. Where there is a duty to render aid that is often satisfied by calling for medical or other professional assistance. If you are not a medical professional and don't really know how to give the appropriate aid you could cause the person more harm than good.

    And if you are not a stranger but rather have some duty of care with respect to the person (parent of a minor child, guardian/conservator of a disabled or incompetent person, etc) that relationship may impose on you the duty to render aid.

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    Default Re: Is It Illegal to Ignore Someone Dying when You Can Save Them

    What about Article IV, (a) (4).

    (4) Failure to stop and render aid in the event of a motor vehicle accident resulting in the death or personal injury of another.

    http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4510.61

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    Default Re: Is It Illegal to Ignore Someone Dying when You Can Save Them

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    What about Article IV, (a) (4).

    (4) Failure to stop and render aid in the event of a motor vehicle accident resulting in the death or personal injury of another.

    http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4510.61
    Read the beginning of Article IV carefully. The DLC does not impose a requirement to render aid. It does not itself make that a crime.

    What it does is say that when a person is convicted in another state for certain crimes, including an offense of failing to render aid in the event of a traffic accident, the driver's license agency in that person's home state must treat that person the same way it would have treated the person in the event he had been convicted of a similar crime in his home state. For example, suppose Alan, a resident of State B, is convicted of a the crime of failing to render aid in State A. For that conviction to occur, State A has to have a law that makes that a crime; the DLC does not itself make it a crime. But what the DLC does is say that the DMV of State B must do the same thing to Alan's license that it would do if Alan was convicted of that crime in State B. This of course requires that State B also have a separate statute that makes this a crime.

    In short, the DLC doesn't make the failure to render aid a crime. All it does is ensure that IF State A AND State B make that a crime that Alan will face the consequences to his license in State B for the conviction in State A the same as if he had committed that crime in State B. Some states have laws that penalize the failure to render aid in an accident and some don't. But the source of those laws is not the DLC.

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    Default Re: Is It Illegal to Ignore Someone Dying when You Can Save Them

    I never stated it was a criminal offense if not followed. It's administrative in nature. Point being it uses the word
    "failure" to. So if a motorist does not stop to render aid and is found out, there are sanctions.

    The other point being, I just did not post it out of a hat, I've known it for years.

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    Default Re: Is It Illegal to Ignore Someone Dying when You Can Save Them

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    Does it matter if you are a legal adult or not in this case?
    No, but it does matter in what state these events happen.


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    Let's say someone is dying/about to die from hypoglycemia and they have diabetes.
    "Dying" could mean that the individual has months or years to live (as the song says, "as soon as you're born, you're dying," so everyone is "dying"). Also, how does our hypothetical observer know that this person has hypoglycemia and/or diabetes and that he/she is "about to die"?


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    You have the ability to save them by giving them some sort of glucose shot or sugary substance, but you choose to ignore them knowing they will die.
    There are no circumstances which I would have that sort of knowledge.


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    Would you face any legal consequences for this?
    Subject to the applicable state law, generally, no, unless the person in question is my spouse or a dependent.

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    I never stated it was a criminal offense if not followed. It's administrative in nature.
    Your first post implied that it was the DLC that imposed the requirement to render aid. It doesn't. Both States A & B must already have separate statutes that penalize a failure to render aid before the DLC provision would apply. If either state does not have such a law, the DLC provision does nothing.

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    So if a motorist does not stop to render aid and is found out, there are sanctions.
    If the state in which the person fails to render aid penalizes that failure, then yes there are sanctions. But it's not the DLC that mandates providing the aid.

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    Medical igronace is an offence. Its aganist the humanity.

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