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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    It isn't up to the dog owner to pay anything, back when the accident happened and especially not now. If his insurance company doesn't want to pay, or even make a reasonable offer, then nothing happens and a lawsuit is filed to persuade them to pay. If the victim wants $300K then they sue for $1M. It is how the insurance companies like to play the game. If the insurance company wants to pay $300K, then they will offer $40K.

    If the OP thinks the other attorney is making up lies, wait until the insurance company's attorneys gets involved. They will lie to defend their client just as much...inferring that the victim wanted to get bitten, poked the dog's eyes, grabbed its tail, hates dogs, showed fear, abused the puppies, faked the injury, wanted the injury, likes facial scars, etc.

    Also, if the IRS views travel time to and from a doctor or pharmacy as a legitimate expense, surely a lawsuit and jury will too. The insurance co is lucky they didn't hire a nanny and a limousine service.

    Perception is everything. If the dog bit a homeless person it wouldn't be a case. But since it bit a child...it is HUGE and that insurance company is going to pay irrespective of the lies that lead up to it. So buckle up OP, you are entering the land of lies...from both sides.
    You are mistaken. If your dog bites someone you are liable for legitimate medical costs whether you pay out of pocket or through your insurance company.

    The owner not liable for meals, unless the cost is incurred during a hospital say and this would only apply to the patient.

    The owner is not liable for transportation unless it was a part of the medical care received such as an ambulance.

    What the IRS considers taxable is not the same as what would be considered in terms of liability.

    Your jaundiced view of the legal system and lawyers is not helpful. your view that everyone is a liar says far more about you says far more about you than the system. It's imperfect but until a better one comes along it's the one we have to work within.
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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    It isn't up to the dog owner to pay anything, back when the accident happened and especially not now. If his insurance company doesn't want to pay, or even make a reasonable offer, then nothing happens and a lawsuit is filed to persuade them to pay. If the victim wants $300K then they sue for $1M. It is how the insurance companies like to play the game. If the insurance company wants to pay $300K, then they will offer $40K.
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    In the OP's original post, they stated that they didn't want to notify the insurance company because they didn't want to have any trouble with the dog. So any bills should be paid by the dog owner. Now that a lawsuit is in place, all bills should be forwarded to the insurance company.
    I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.......

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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    You are mistaken. If your dog bites someone you are liable for legitimate medical costs.

    The owner not liable for meals, unless the cost is incurred during a hospital say and this would only apply to the patient.

    The owner is not liable for transportation unless it was a part of the medical care received such as an ambulance.

    What the IRS considers taxable is not the same as what would be considered in terms of liability.

    Your jaundiced view of the legal system and lawyers is not helpful. your view that everyone is a liar says far more about you says far more about you than the system. It's imperfect but until a better one comes along it's the one we have to work within.
    "Liable" or not, the insurance company will pay just short of whatever they think the jury will award.

    "Imperfect" is a gross overstatement. Also, this will not even reach our legal system. This is how we negotiate with insurance companies and how they negotiate with us. It is an 'insurance system'...not a 'legal system.'

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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    It isn't up to the dog owner to pay anything, back when the accident happened and especially not now. If his insurance company doesn't want to pay, or even make a reasonable offer, then nothing happens and a lawsuit is filed to persuade them to pay. If the victim wants $300K then they sue for $1M. It is how the insurance companies like to play the game. If the insurance company wants to pay $300K, then they will offer $40K.
    I don't think it really works like that? Maybe in your world, but not this one.

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    If the OP thinks the other attorney is making up lies, wait until the insurance company's attorneys gets involved. They will lie to defend their client just as much...inferring that the victim wanted to get bitten, poked the dog's eyes, grabbed its tail, hates dogs, showed fear, abused the puppies, faked the injury, wanted the injury, likes facial scars, etc.
    You're dead wrong. No lawyer is going to knowingly lie in a courtroom at anytime.

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    Also, if the IRS views travel time to and from a doctor or pharmacy as a legitimate expense, surely a lawsuit and jury will too. The insurance co is lucky they didn't hire a nanny and a limousine service.
    Most taxpayers aren't able to deduct medical expenses, including travel and transportation costs.

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    Perception is everything. If the dog bit a homeless person it wouldn't be a case. But since it bit a child...it is HUGE and that insurance company is going to pay irrespective of the lies that lead up to it. So buckle up OP, you are entering the land of lies...from both sides.
    Explain why the homeless person wouldn't have a case if he were bit by the dog?
    I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.......

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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    I don't think it really works like that? Maybe in your world, but not this one.

    You're dead wrong. No lawyer is going to knowingly lie in a courtroom at anytime.

    Most taxpayers aren't able to deduct medical expenses, including travel and transportation costs.

    Explain why the homeless person wouldn't have a case if he were bit by the dog?
    You are correct, your world, and very likely your experience with our legal system, insurance system and lawyers, is very different than mine.

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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    You are correct, your world, and very likely your experience with our legal system, insurance system and lawyers, is very different than mine.
    You still haven't asked my question. Why is it that the homeless person wouldn't have a case if he were bit by the dog, but a child bit by the same dog would?
    I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.......

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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    You still haven't asked my question. Why is it that the homeless person wouldn't have a case if he were bit by the dog, but a child bit by the same dog would?
    I'll phrase it differently. A homeless person would get paid ten cents on the dollar for what a cute, young, White, blue eyes little girl would get awarded from a jury.

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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    I'll phrase it differently. A homeless person would get paid ten cents on the dollar for what a cute, young, White, blue eyes little girl would get awarded from a jury.
    And yet there is still no mention of a trial anywhere. The owner would only be responsible for specific damages unless the injuries are extensive or the owner was negligent and then other damages MAY be awarded.

    And there is still no trial on the horizon...except in your own mind.
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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    And yet there is still no mention of a trial anywhere. The owner would only be responsible for specific damages unless the injuries are extensive or the owner was negligent and then other damages MAY be awarded.

    And there is still no trial on the horizon...except in your own mind.
    Well in CONNOR's defense, in his own world, CONNOR can make things up, and also bring race into it.
    I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.......

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    Default Re: What to Do if Someone is Suing You for a Possible Dog Bite and Story is a Lie

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    Well in CONNOR's defense, in his own world, CONNOR can make things up, and also bring race into it.
    In my world I only speak of things I have actual experience with. I hope you have the same standards when speaking here.

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    And yet there is still no mention of a trial anywhere. The owner would only be responsible for specific damages unless the injuries are extensive or the owner was negligent and then other damages MAY be awarded.

    And there is still no trial on the horizon...except in your own mind.
    Since you obviously have experience getting an insurance company to cough up six figures, you'd know that the threat of a lawsuit is the bare minimum to get the negotiations started.

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