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    Default Re: Police Lied to the Solicitor and Judge

    If the detective said "might not" and "possibly", he may not have been lying. That might have been his understanding of where things were headed and something changed. Even if he did lie, I'm not sure how it makes things worse for your son. He was given a lenient sentence on the first set of charges and is working on cleaning himself up. He's just going to have to deal with the other mess he made for himself. He was going to have to that anyway since the detective's alleged statements inferred there would be a charge of some kind.

    There isn't anything you can do on this. It's up to your son's attorney.

    I don't see why the deputy solicitor is getting pissy. He acted based on the information he had. He got a win either way. I also don't see how he figures the detectives statements in any way help your son.

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    The detective has also charged two others with the same charges. She also gave a false statement to one of the others family, saying that my mother handed over a video of their daughter robbing the house. The solicitor isn’t acting pissy. The judge is a circuit court judge, and he wanted all of the charges upfront and tried at the same time.
    The detective also lied and said she only spoke to me as a parent. She asked me to identify two males that I had never seen before. She also said my son helped in the investigation and she couldn’t connect him to any robbery. I understand that we all must face the consequences for our actions, but so should the police. She has lied so much that my parents are getting threats. It’s hard to watch a snake with six heads. While you are looking at one, they are biting you in the butt with the other one.

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    Default Re: Police Lied to the Solicitor and Judge

    The detective is not the one who ultimately decides on the charges; that is done by the DA.

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    The police are allowed to lie. Without context it's hard to say but the statements you have described are the kinds of things police tell suspects to get them to confess or provide information.

    Was the other county even in the same circuit? The solicitor is being pissy. He spoke in court based on assumptions and it bit him in the butt. If the detective said to him what you claim, he was a fool to tell the court wasn't going to pursue charges without talking to that county's solicitor first.

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    You are exactly right, but the police report only list one person who went into the house. I have the utmost respect for police officers. My cousin died in the line of duty, and another had his arm ripped off by someone on bath salts. This detective flat out lied to all of us, and now her lies are the cause of the threats toward my parents.

    It is him the same circuit, and I have a copy of the email from the detective to the solicitor. This investigation started in August. It is now November and my son was in jail all of September and October. Things do not add up. Including saying that my son was driving his car that is lime green. He has not driven that car since April. It has been locked up due to his drug issue.

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    The detective has no control what a prosecutor, especially in a different area, does regarding a prosecution. A judge doesn’t either so some judge wanting it all of any possible charges at one time is irrelevant. The da files charges when they believe they are warranted and they have adequate belief they will be upheld in court.

    if your son has a valid defense, he will get to present it in court during the trial. What the detective said is not any sort of defense. In fact it’s meaningless. Not being involved and able to prove it is a defense.

    as to the statement about only one person entering the building; how would the detective know? Unless he was actually there, he can’t possibly know with any certainty.

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    . . . The da [sic] files charges when they believe they are warranted and they have adequate belief they will be upheld in court. . . .
    Perhaps you have overlooked the fact that according to the OP the two counties are in the same Judicial Circuit of which there is but one Circuit Solicitor. Being such it might be that one hand is not aware of what the other is doing.

    And since both "hands" or deputy solicitors function under the auspices and at the pleasure of the same Circuit Solicitor it is that person that the boy's attorney needs to seduce not a judge.

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    Default Re: Police Lied to the Solicitor and Judge

    In the south, particularly, more than one county may be in a circuit, but each county has its own prosecuting attorney, so completely different jurisdictions as far as prosecutors go.

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    Perhaps you have overlooked the fact that according to the OP the two counties are in the same Judicial Circuit of which there is but one Circuit Solicitor. Being such it might be that one hand is not aware of what the other is doing.

    And since both "hands" or deputy solicitors function under the auspices and at the pleasure of the same Circuit Solicitor it is that person that the boy's attorney needs to seduce not a judge.
    . I didn’t overlook that there are two different prosecutors involved and a prosecutor moves at their own pace. In the end it is irrelevant. There is no obligation prosecutions of different unassociated crimes be undertaken at the same time. Given there would be two totally unique sets of evidence, prosecuting multiple separate crimes would simply bring confusion to the courtroom. While the threat of prosecution of a second crime can and has been used to urge a defendant to enter into a plea bargain involving both crimes, it would appear the prosecutors involved didn’t wish to work these cases in that manner. There is nothing illegal or even improper in doing it the way it was done. If the Circuit Solicitor didn’t wish to somehow link the cases, he isn’t obligated to. He apparently allowed each deputy solicitor to prosecute their cases as they chose.

    It would also appear the second prosecutors case was not ready at the time the first case was tried.

    I’m simply not seeing a problem with the scenario described.


    and I’m a bit confused with your use of [sic] associated with my use of the term “da”(short for district attorney). District attorney is commonly used to refer to a prosecutor, prosecuting attorney, states attorney, solicitor, or any other entity whose function is to file charges and prosecute cases on behalf of the state. Obviously you understood my use of the term.

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