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    Default Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    My question involves a traffic ticket from the state of: Washington

    I was driving around the airport to pick someone up, they gave me some bad directions on which terminal. When I discovered I was too far ahead of where they were, I put my car in reverse to get closer. Only 1 vehicle passed me, this was not a very busy time at the airport at all, and I waited for that vehicle to pass before I even started pulling out to reverse in the road. After reversing about 75 meters (sorry for the metric reference) I parked again. At that time an airport officer ran over to me and started yelling at me that I was being unsafe. Given the situation, I didn't allow him to yell at me and told him I did nothing wrong. He told me that he was going to issue me a parking ticket, $30, rather than an infraction ticket and was doing me a favor.

    My question is, was I in the legal wrong by reversing my vehicle against 1 way traffic for this distance? My vehicle was facing the correct direction, I was just in reverse gear.

    Should I contest my ticket or just pony up the $30? I have an open schedule, so it is not a bother to me to take time away to go to court.

    No rcw is referenced on the ticket, it is a notice of parking infraction ticket with the box checked as 16a.61.570.a.2.g. I never was out of the vehicle and was parked in the striped pickup zone in the airport. I was in the pickup zone no more than 2 minutes by the time the officer ran from his vehicle to mine

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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    Quote Quoting Spokane Municipal Code Section 16A.61.570(A)(2)(g)
    Except when necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic, or in compliance with law or the directions of a police officer or official traffic control device, no person shall: stand or park a vehicle, whether occupied or not, except momentarily to pick up or discharge a passenger or passengers: in a no-parking area at Spokane International Airport as designated by the airport board.
    My guess is that you probably would lose but the worst case is likely just the $30, although you might want to ask a clerk if any court cost is tacked on. However I would certainly not bring up anything about backing up.

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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    Quote Quoting spokanedriver
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    Should I contest my ticket or just pony up the $30? I have an open schedule, so it is not a bother to me to take time away to go to court.

    No rcw is referenced on the ticket, it is a notice of parking infraction ticket with the box checked as 16a.61.570.a.2.g. I never was out of the vehicle and was parked in the striped pickup zone in the airport. I was in the pickup zone no more than 2 minutes by the time the officer ran from his vehicle to mine
    The officer gave you a gift. Pay the $30 and stop being an ________. You were clearly in the wrong making a dangerous maneuver and if the officer testifies the judge could easily change the charge to an infraction. Then where will you be.

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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    Quote Quoting spokanedriver
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    No rcw is referenced on the ticket, it is a notice of parking infraction ticket with the box checked as 16a.61.570.a.2.g.
    I assume this happened at GEG. Section 16A.61.570(A)(2)(g) of the Spokane Municipal Code states as follows:

    "Except when necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic, or in compliance with law or the directions of a police officer or official traffic control device, no person shall . . . stand or park a vehicle, whether occupied or not, except momentarily to pick up or discharge a passenger or passengers . . . in a no-parking area at Spokane International Airport as designated by the airport board."


    Quote Quoting spokanedriver
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    My question is, was I in the legal wrong by reversing my vehicle against 1 way traffic for this distance?
    Probably. What would make you think it's legal to drive the wrong way in reverse?


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    My vehicle was facing the correct direction, I was just in reverse gear.
    Why don't you try the same thing on a freeway or city street and see how that goes? If you get pulled over, tell the cop that you were "facing in the correct direction" and see how he/she reacts.


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    Should I contest my ticket or just pony up the $30?
    Well...you appear to have been cited for something you didn't do, but you did violate the law, and it's only $30....

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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    I really am sorry if I dated your daughters and did them wrong, I was young at a point in my life and maybe treated you and them wrong.

    With that said... these responses are a bit off. I asked for answers to a question, as is the design of this forum, and got some offhand rude results. If you don't want to answer, then don't.

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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

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    I really am sorry if I dated your daughters and did them wrong, I was young at a point in my life and maybe treated you and them wrong.

    With that said... these responses are a bit off. I asked for answers to a question, as is the design of this forum, and got some offhand rude results. If you don't want to answer, then don't.
    You did get answers, though. You were told that you were likely in the wrong, that going in reverse, 75m no less, probably constitutes driving the wrong way on a one way regardless of which way your car was facing and that $30 is a serious break as compared to the cost of a moving violation/infraction.

    At the end of the day you can do what you want. You don't have to agree with the answers you receive.
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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    The way you describe it, I don't think the backing up was a violation. "(1) The driver of a vehicle shall not back the same unless such movement can be made with safety and without interfering with other traffic." However, as searcher99 quoted it, standing for even 2 minutes without picking up anyone seems too long at that spot. You may want to give it a shot, though. Don't bring up backing up.

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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    Okay, I'll play your game.

    was I in the legal wrong by reversing my vehicle against 1 way traffic for this distance? My vehicle was facing the correct direction, I was just in reverse gear. Yes. You were legally in the wrong by reversing your vehicle in one way traffic. The point is not what direction you were facing, but what direction you were going. You were going the wrong way, no matter which way you were facing.

    Should I contest my ticket or just pony up the $30? You should pony up the $30. If you contest it you will lose, and probably have to pay a great deal more than the $30.

    Okay? Does that better suit your idea of how this is played?

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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    I have no problem with the information, if I was in the wrong I was in the wrong. It's answers like " stop being an ________. You were clearly in the wrong making a dangerous maneuver and if the officer testifies the judge could easily change the charge to an infraction. Then where will you be." or "Probably. What would make you think it's legal to drive the wrong way in reverse?" or even "Why don't you try the same thing on a freeway or city street and see how that goes? If you get pulled over, tell the cop that you were "facing in the correct direction" and see how he/she reacts." that are pointless

    But answers like "The way you describe it, I don't think the backing up was a violation. "(1) The driver of a vehicle shall not back the same unless such movement can be made with safety and without interfering with other traffic." However, as searcher99 quoted it, standing for even 2 minutes without picking up anyone seems too long at that spot. You may want to give it a shot, though. Don't bring up backing up." are great. They tell me I was in the wrong, and don't make it a childish response.

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    Default Re: Airport Gave Parking Ticket Rather Than Infraction Ticket, Can I Fight

    IMO what's childish is thinking you have anything remotely like a defense to use in contesting this ticket. IMO you are so clearly in the wrong that I can't even imagine why you would think you could successfully contest it, and the other responses you received reflect that.

    But to each his own.

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