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    Default Re: Stopping for School Buses in Private Parking Lots

    Quote Quoting jk
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    rather than not complying with the lights, how about contacting the school and asking they donít use the lights where they are not legally applicable. It would be safer for the kids.
    lol

    To use the standard EL argument: If they did that, the first kid killed 'when lights might have helped even if not legally applicable' will result in a massive lawsuit.

    School likely knows the lights arent legally binding all the time, and just has a policy of 'lights on when kids are moving'



    ON ANOTHER ASPECT:

    If a parking lot is (say) 500 feet by 500 feet....and a bus is somewhere inside said parking lot, how does one define 'passing'? Unlike a 'highway' where there is a physical roadway, do the painted lines within a parking lot now become little roadways?

    Or is it just safer to not move anywhere in a parking lot, no matter the size, when a bus is loading/unloading as this would be the safest? Just draw a line perpendicular to the buses axis of travel, extend this to the ends of the lot, and do not cross this line even if hundreds of feet away....


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    Default Re: Stopping for School Buses in Private Parking Lots

    Quote Quoting adam_
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    lol

    To use the standard EL argument: If they did that, the first kid killed 'when lights might have helped even if not legally applicable' will result in a massive lawsuit.

    School likely knows the lights arent legally binding all the time, and just has a policy of 'lights on when kids are moving'



    ON ANOTHER ASPECT:

    If a parking lot is (say) 500 feet by 500 feet....and a bus is somewhere inside said parking lot, how does one define 'passing'? Unlike a 'highway' where there is a physical roadway, do the painted lines within a parking lot now become little roadways?

    Or is it just safer to not move anywhere in a parking lot, no matter the size, when a bus is loading/unloading as this would be the safest? Just draw a line perpendicular to the buses axis of travel, extend this to the ends of the lot, and do not cross this line even if hundreds of feet away....

    Yes, that would be the right thing to do. Anything less would be putting those kids' lives at risk over a short wait

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    Default Re: Stopping for School Buses in Private Parking Lots

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    Yes, that would be the right thing to do. Anything less would be putting those kids' lives at risk over a short wait
    "right" is for a different forum

    THIS forum is for the LEGAL thing to do....

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    Default Re: Stopping for School Buses in Private Parking Lots

    Quote Quoting adam_
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    lol

    To use the standard EL argument: If they did that, the first kid killed 'when lights might have helped even if not legally applicable' will result in a massive lawsuit.

    School likely knows the lights arent legally binding all the time, and just has a policy of 'lights on when kids are moving'



    ON ANOTHER ASPECT:

    If a parking lot is (say) 500 feet by 500 feet....and a bus is somewhere inside said parking lot, how does one define 'passing'? Unlike a 'highway' where there is a physical roadway, do the painted lines within a parking lot now become little roadways?

    Or is it just safer to not move anywhere in a parking lot, no matter the size, when a bus is loading/unloading as this would be the safest? Just draw a line perpendicular to the buses axis of travel, extend this to the ends of the lot, and do not cross this line even if hundreds of feet away....

    The point is if the lights are not legally applicable as it appears to be so in the state at hand, using them creates a false sense of security for the passengers.

    No, the pathways in the parking lot do not become little roadways because the law at hand doesn’t apply to the situation.


    Not using lights when it isn’t applicable does not make th driver culpable should a child be injured. The lights are authorized when in situation where the law provides for them to be used. Using them when they aren’t authorized could be more problematic than not using them.

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