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And of course you deflect with bringing up the Steele dossier. Maybe move the clock ahead a bit and stop living in the past and bringing up irrelevant issues. .
It was the Steele dossier that was the bases of the collusion investigation in the first place. A dossier that was bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign. That dossier was a fabrication by a foreign company. It was pretty much disproved by the Muller investigation. That was evident when Muller testified before the House committees. If you want to accuse someone of colluding with a foreign government to effect the outcome of our election, why not Hillary and the DNC? Those facts are already proven.

It also came out at the Muller testimony that Muller himself had virtually nothing to do with the investigation and the writing of the report. It was the team of Democratic patrician lawyers and high level officials in the Obama justice department that perpetrated this hoax of an investigation. It wasn't an investigation into collusion. It was an attempted coup to unseat a dully elected president. But not with guns but with lies and corruption at the highest levels of govt.. Can that be seen as treason?

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There have been (I believe) 39 indictments based on the mueller investigation. That alone proves it wasn’t a hoax or witch hunt. .
That's right and not one of the indictments had anything to do with Trump or his campaign. Those indictments were against people that may have worked for Trump but the indictments were for lying to Congress and tax evasion, and not registering as a forging lobbyist and the alike. Many people had their lives changed as a result in an effort to get Trump. And still, the investigation found nothing of collusion. No witness would collaborate this hoax.

Now the accusation is obstruction absent collusion. This is all political theater. You need an underlying crime to indict for obstruction. What is the underlying crime? What did he do to obstruct justice? How did he influence the investigation?

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Or maybe you and the other trumpeters simply don’t understand why this investigation was started. Have you read the authorizing document?.
The investigation was started by high level officials in the Obama administration to unseat a dully elected president based on a completely fictitious dossier that was bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign. Nothing more needs to be know considering the outcome.


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it is a proven fact there were communications with a representative of a foreign government. That is why the investigation came about. Trump is whining because the communications were with his kids and various other people within his circle. Sorry Budwad but you can whine all you want but when you review the initiation of the mueller investigation on a purely objective view it would take a traitor to suggest it wasn’t the proper thing to do given the knowledge available at the time..
There is nothing purely objective about the Muller report. It was prepared by patrician Democratic hack lawyers. And still they couldn't prove collusion. Muller doesn't have a clue what's in that report. What an embarrassment it was for him to testify before the House. They just trashed another good man and for what?

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It isn’t a dem or republican issue. It was what was proper to defend the United States itself from foreign governments...
The threat to our government didn't come from foreign governments this time. It came from within the government of the USA by people of power that wanted to unseat a dully elected president. Those are the people that will pay for their crimes.


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so if you wish to maintain your contrived narrative regarding mueller investigation, leave the line that says “patriots only”. The investigation wasn’t initially about trump but improper influence in our electoral process. I would expect such an investigation any time there is valid support to believe there is improper influence by a foreign state into our business. .
The improper influence in our electoral process was started by the DMC and the Hilary campaign by commissioning and paying for a false dossier on Trump. That was then used by high ranking officials of the Obama administration to start an investigation into collusion. Those are the facts JK whether or not you want to believe them. It was the insurance policy of the FBI to take down the Trump presidency should he win. He won and we as a people have spent almost 3 years wasting time and money and still the House Demarcates can't stop.

It is your pedagogical hatred towards Trump, like may of the like minded people, that can't see the trees for the forest.

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Yes, this is what he always been referring to. I’ll find the quote for you where this was said (at least I hope I still can)

i disagree that an intentional act to control the end result is necessarily lawful. While the mechanism itself may be lawful, the intent is what I believe to be the crime. The senators are willfully ignoring their duties to act to defend the US against a possible criminal act by the president. The fact they craft some means to make it appear they are acting doesn’t change the fact they would effectively be covering up criminal activity. How is that not a crime?

Persoanlly as long as the senators have taken the position of being willing to cover up criminal activity by the president, I believe a move to impeach would simply give trump a stand to claim he, again without true vindication, that the action has exonerated him. He has successfully used that same tactic to rally his sheep. It would allow him to further divide the country so I see it as being more harmful than gainful.


Yes, have a great loathing for Trump. I’ve seen people act as never before in support of a person who clearly holds his interest in promoting his name before the best interests of our country. I teeter between whether his acts are simply a display of grandiose narcissism with no understanding of the damage it has caused on the world stage or an actual intent to move the country into a fascist state. His statements over his tenure so far have suggested he does desire a fascist state with himself as the leader. His constant pecking away at the rule of law and attempts to circumvent the processes in place and limits of authority shows a desire to alter the foundations of the rules of government we currently have. His attacks on the US Constitution itself show a lack of respect for the establishment of our government itself.

I see support by the gop in his actions when they speak of ignoring their duties concerning holding a valid trial if the the president is actually impeached. I just don’t know if their actions are simply out of foolish loyalty to a political party that is so strong they are willing to refuse to perform their duties to defend the US Constitution or something worse.
We are not in the same universe here. You are in an alternative universe where you can believe what you want without any factual basis.

If you won't to defend the US constitution you would at least understand what is happening here. Obviously you don't.