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    Default Re: Speeding Ticket Court Gameplan

    The officer does not explicitly say that he did the internal and external checks of radar accuracy, but he does come very close to it. It will be the judge's call. If you have other options, such as deferral or downgrade to a non-moving violation, you should consider them. Also, I'd wait for searcher99's opinion.

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    I’m pretty much in agreement with zeljo’s comments above. The officer’s initial description of the checks is more general, but later he did attest to personal knowledge by stating: “I checked the radar at the beginning and end of my shift. Both the internal and external checks of this unit confirmed it was functioning properly and in good working condition at the time that the speed was obtained.”

    If you are feeling adventurous, or you are not eligible for a deferred finding and no prosecutor is available to speak to before the hearing, there are a few weaker defenses you could try. Each of the following would be preliminary motions to exclude or suppress the evidence of speed:

    1. The device calibration certificate could not be found online. The exact device identification provided in the officer’s statement contains 6 characters and the state patrol website for certifications will only accept 5 characters. (As I see it, adding extra characters fails identification as required in ER 901 because the extra characters will always return an error when typed into the WSP online database for certifications.)
    2. The device calibration certificate is not filed at the court as required. (This assumes that you arrived early, checked the certificates on file and could not locate that device. If the certificate is not filed at the court, there are a few judges who will not recognize online certificates and grant an objection based on the last sentence of IRLJ 6.6(d), such as in this previous post.)
    3. It could be argued that the State Patrol certificates are not substantially compliant with the form spelled out in IRLJ 6.6(b). They cannot state beforehand that “The units were evaluated and certified” when the actual certification gets done later. If themadnorwegian is correct in this previous post, then it can be argued that the Washington Supreme Court requires an objection be granted when it relates to a defective certificate.
    4. It could maybe be argued that the electronic signature on the date of actual calibration is not sufficient. Perhaps a physical signature is required, but really I don’t know about that—just wondering. In any case, the 2 different dates/signatures would seem not to comply with the form spelled out in the rule, which looks to require a single signature after completion of specific device calibration.
    5. There is also a possibility of one other defense. I find it interesting that the officer actually stated when he did the end of shift testing (1:03 am). For electronically filed SECTOR tickets, tech support might be able to give you the “last modified” time for the ticket which would indicate when it was filed (click the link for their email). If that time was earlier in his shift substantially before 1:03 am, his statement of testing at end of shift could be called into question as he cannot attest to something in the future.

    Again I want to stress that these are iffy motions and if you want the safest outcome you might be better off not to contest at all, but if you do contest then announce that you have motions immediately when your case is called, before the officer’s statement is read into the record and before you are sworn in for testimony.

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    Default Re: Speeding Ticket Court Gameplan

    Quote Quoting searcher99
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    [LIST=1][*]The device calibration certificate could not be found online. The exact device identification provided in the officer’s statement contains 6 characters and the state patrol website for certifications will only accept 5 characters. (As I see it, adding extra characters fails identification as required in ER 901 because the extra characters will always return an error when typed into the WSP online database for certifications.)
    Do you really know of a single case where the addtion of a "-" in the device look up got a ticket dismissed?

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    Default Re: Speeding Ticket Court Gameplan

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    Do you really know of a single case where the addtion of a "-" in the device look up got a ticket dismissed?
    No I don’t, but there was a thread on this forum in Spokane County where the “R” for “radar” was omitted and the prosecutor recommended dismissal after the defendant informed her that she could not find the device online. In that case the 4 digit id was still unique to the device as long as the user knew to put the “R” in front. It just makes sense to me that when dealing with a database no one should have to add or omit characters in order to get a result.

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    Default Re: Speeding Ticket Court Gameplan

    The WSP database look-up page says,

    "Enter the identification number (tag number, for examples: A001, L1001, R2000, S001) of the speed measuring device below to view its testing and certification history."

    I could understand someone not being able to find a device because the leading R was omitted because it could be an A, L, S or R, but a "-" is simply not following instructions on the website.

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    Default Re: Speeding Ticket Court Gameplan

    Good point and I saw that too. I guess my question would be why the officer can’t follow instructions on the site for listing a tag number that is lookup friendly.

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    Default Re: Speeding Ticket Court Gameplan

    The officer may well never see the site and that may be how he was instructed to list the device. We are talking about the government here. The left hand often has no clue as to what the right hand is doing.

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