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    Default Re: Can This Single Vehicle Accident Be Successfully Blamed on Another Driver

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    This is mainly an assumption on my part based on her description of the incident. Considering the speed limit of that road and the distance she describes between the location of her u-turn and that next wave of traffic, there should have been plenty of time for slowing down. I believe the other driver made the choice to attempt to pass her, rather than sacrificing any of his speed or time. I do think she misjudged the speed of the oncoming traffic, but she did not pull out in front of them at an unsafe distance.

    I do realize this is just my opinion.
    The speed limit Is actuslly irrelevent. A driver is obligated to judge the actusl speed of oncoming vehicles and act accordingly.

    And the fact the other drivers had to react to her pulling into their path proves it was not safe for her to pull out. Only if she could pull out without interrupting traffic would it be considered “clear”. Yes, often times people have to slow down to avoid hitting a person and life goes on. That doesnt mean it was proper that they had to slow down.

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    Default Re: Can This Single Vehicle Accident Be Successfully Blamed on Another Driver

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    She shouldn't have pulled out if there was enough room for her to make it only if every oncoming vehicle slowed down significantly to accommodate her. That's now how driving works. You don't pull out into oncoming traffic with the assumption that everyone will be able to stop themselves from hitting you.
    I never implied this. I stated that there was a misjudgment of the speed of the vehicles, not the space. No one was cut-off. She realized that the vehicles were going faster than she expected (faster than she could accelerate to match the speed of) after turning into her lane and seeing them closing in in her rear view mirror. If she had the time to observe this in her rear view mirror after making the turn, and re-act to it by maximizing her acceleration, then the other driver behind her had even more time, considering he also watched her make the u-turn. No one was cut-off.

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    Default Re: Can This Single Vehicle Accident Be Successfully Blamed on Another Driver

    Your description does not remove the possibility they were “cut off”

    She shouldn’t have “expected” them to be going any speed. She should have observed them long enough to determine their speed and then calculated if she had enough time to safely pull out given the distance at the time. Whether she misjudged the speed or the distance doesn’t really mattter. She is negligent in either case and an accident resulted.


    Observing somebody closing in in the rear view mirror takes almost no time so it does not allow one to conclude there was adequate time or space for the driver to react safely. You can watch a car 5 feet behind you for a fraction of a second and realize they are moving faster than you are.

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    Default Re: Can This Single Vehicle Accident Be Successfully Blamed on Another Driver

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    I never implied this. I stated that there was a misjudgment of the speed of the vehicles, not the space. No one was cut-off. She realized that the vehicles were going faster than she expected (faster than she could accelerate to match the speed of) after turning into her lane and seeing them closing in in her rear view mirror. If she had the time to observe this in her rear view mirror after making the turn, and re-act to it by maximizing her acceleration, then the other driver behind her had even more time, considering he also watched her make the u-turn. No one was cut-off.
    She literally pulled out in front of a car who had to swerve to miss her. It doesn't matter if she "perceives" that the car should have had enough time to slow down enough to not hit her. She already proved that perception is not accurate by misjudging the speed of the cars to begin with. The oncoming cars had the right of way, she pulled out after she misjudged their speed, and an accident happened. When she chose to pull out into oncoming traffic, she didn't get to expect everyone else to slow down or move to not hit her. She admits she misjudged the speed of the other cars. You can argue all you want that everyone else should have been fine, but they weren't. Can I shoot a gun into a crowd and then say, "Well, everyone should have had enough time to duck and not get hit?"

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    Default Re: Can This Single Vehicle Accident Be Successfully Blamed on Another Driver

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    This is mainly an assumption on my part...
    Which means nothing.

    Your wife's beliefs don't mean much more unless she has some specialized training we don't know about.

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    Default Re: Can This Single Vehicle Accident Be Successfully Blamed on Another Driver

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    was a misjudgment of the speed of the vehicles, not the space. No one was cut-off. She realized that the vehicles were going [B]faster than she expected [/B](faster than she could accelerate to match the speed of) after turning into her lane and seeing them closing in in her rear view mirror.
    That's called negligence, no matter how you spin it.

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