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    Default Probation Violation Hearing for an Amended Term of Probation

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: MI

    I was recently called back to MI on a probation violation for a very capricious issue that involved using someone’s name on a Facebook post I made, that I wasn’t supposed to. Apparently I violated an amended probation term that was never sent to me via mail on an interstate compact. The police officer involved in this situation has had a personal vendetta against me for a very long time, and from what I understand has made multiple attempts to violate me before for equally capricious reasons.

    Anyways, once I flew in from OR, and entered the court room some really weird stuff happened. My case was first on the docket but the P.O. officer wasn’t there yet so the detective and family from NYC who flew in to see me get crucified were made to enter, then leave the court room. Then my lawyer left the court room for another case, but the PO officer had arrived, so once again they were made to enter then leave the court room again. Then my lawyer finally arrived and the prosecutor and P.O. and my lawyer were all called to the bench to discuss my case ‘off record’, so no one could hear what they were saying. The judge asked me a couple of basic questions, to which I answered honestly. Then she read he term which I allegedly violated but never received in the mail to acknowledge and sign. Then she flat out dismissed the case without allowing the alleged ‘victim’ and the detective any sort of testimony, which was the whole reason they came to the court. I got cut off my the detective on the way out of the court room doors.

    I’m trying to figure out what the heck actually happened here. Would this be considered humiliating to that detective? Were they secretly trying to convey some sort of message? People flew in from all over the country for this 5 minute hearing. I feel like there is a lot more going on here that I don’t understand.

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    My case was first on the docket but the P.O. officer wasn’t there yet so the detective and family from NYC who flew in to see me get crucified were made to enter, then leave the court room. Then my lawyer left the court room for another case, but the PO officer had arrived, so once again they were made to enter then leave the court room again. Then my lawyer finally arrived and the prosecutor and P.O. and my lawyer were all called to the bench to discuss my case ‘off record’, so no one could hear what they were saying. The judge asked me a couple of basic questions, to which I answered honestly. Then she read he term which I allegedly violated but never received in the mail to acknowledge and sign. Then she flat out dismissed the case without allowing the alleged ‘victim’ and the detective any sort of testimony, which was the whole reason they came to the court. I got cut off my the detective on the way out of the court room doors.
    Most likely the case was dismissed because your attorney pointed out to the judge that you were never provided the "terms" you were speaking about. Yes, that sort of thing can be humiliating to both the detective and prosecutor.

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    Most likely the case was dismissed because your attorney pointed out to the judge that you were never provided the "terms" you were speaking about. Yes, that sort of thing can be humiliating to both the detective and prosecutor.
    Well, not so much the officer as he most likely relied on the terms of Probation that he was provided. The officer likely had no way to know - nor any reason to investigate - whether the probationer had ever been properly advised of the terms. I know that it's never been a part of MY inquiry on a probation matter.
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    Default Re: Probation Violation Hearing

    I'm baffled as to why you are asking a bunch of strangers on the Internet to guess what happened during your court appearance instead of doing the logical thing which is to ask your attorney.


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    Default Re: Probation Violation Hearing for an Amended Term of Probation

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    Would this be considered humiliating to that detective? Were they secretly trying to convey some sort of message? .
    No and most assuredly not. Why would the detective be humiliated by a clerical error that had nothing to do with his abilities? Annoyed? Probably. Frustrated? More than likely. But humiliated? Nope.

    And secret messages? Come on now... you're watching way too many conspiracy videos on youtube.

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