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    Default How to Evict a Subtenant and Her Guests

    My question involves landlord-tenant law in the State of: Pennsylvania.

    I recently moved for a new position within a company. Along with my was my fiance and 1.5 year old daughter. My future mother in law wanted to come for a short period of time to help with settling in and watching the baby while we both got settled into our new jobs. Well she decided to make it permanent for herself. It wasnt bad until about a month ago she decided she was just going to do what she wanted and moved in 2 of her friends while my fiance and I was at work.

    We both came home to new adults along with their clothes. We both instructed them to all leave and they refused. After a call to the local police, they instructed us that they couldn't remove them that they would have to be evicted through the court system. I started researching the law in the mean time and determined they had to be given a 15 day notice to quit. Out of the kindness of my heart and maybe some stupidity I decided instead of 15 days I would do 30. I served them the paper on 8-29-18. I come home today to find prescription nacotics left on the kitchen table within reach of my 1.5 year old daughter.

    I'm not going to lie I came unglued. They also repediatly start arguments and have made threats to me including bodily harm. Also after serving them the notice to quit they have repeatedly went to the local casino every day since the papers were served. I now have the landlord on my behind for what is going on. I live in a 3 bedroom 1 bath house. There is 5 adults and my 1.5 year old daughter. Both me and my fiance are fed up and on the edge and about to loose it.

    The lease clearly only states my fiance me and 1 child on it. The owner of the property also knew about the mother in law coming down for a short period of time to help out. I also understand we are the master tenants and they are considered Subtenant and that we can legally evict them. Also is there any legality that I can change the 30 day notice to 15 to get them out sooner? I have a mess on my hands!

    We never seen any of this coming as my future mother in law and fiance mother has never done this to us in the past. Any and I mean any advice you can give me is greatly appreciated. Ive never had to do this and never dreamed of having to do this but I guess theres a first for everything.

    I also recently learned that the one lady she moved in, is a drug addict. Not only could this put my job on the line more importantly put my daughters safety on the line.

    Also lease is a month to month and we moved into the residence 5/1/18. I have paid all the bills and utilities to date.

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    Default Re: Some Advice First Timer.

    The only reason you have to evict through the courts is that the police don't want to get involved in landlord tenant relationships, unless there is violence involved.

    15 days notice is required for "a forfeiture for breach of the conditions of the lease where the lease is for any term of one year or less or for an indeterminate time, the notice shall specify that the tenant shall remove within fifteen days from the date of service thereof" (250.501(b):

    https://govt.westlaw.com/pac/Documen...a=(sc.Default)

    Unfortunately, a toxic relationship with your freeloaders is not that so you might as well stick it out for the 30 days and then file in court.

    Meantime, you are free to search the drug addict's belongings for contraband and call the police if you find any.

    When you get close to the deadline I strongly suggest that you have an attorney handle the litigation for you to make sure it gets done right and to insulate you from the freeloaders.

    I hate to say this, but I think you might have a bigger problem coming than you know. There's an old saying. If you want to find out what a woman will be like when she gets older, look at her mother. Not only will the girl turn out to be like her mother, but her mother is destined to be in your lives until she dies. I wish you luck.

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    Default Re: Some Advice First Timer.

    Meantime, you are free to search the drug addict's belongings for contraband and call the police if you find any.
    How can I legally search her belongings without me being the criminal from searching her property without her permission.

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    Default Re: Some Advice First Timer.

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    How can I legally search her belongings without me being the criminal from searching her property without her permission.
    You can't so don't do it. If you see something out in the open you can call the police.

    Welcome to the world of the professional squatter.

    Think twice my friend about what you are about to delve into. Is the child yours?

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    I hate to say this, but I think you might have a bigger problem coming than you know. There's an old saying. If you want to find out what a woman will be like when she gets older, look at her mother. Not only will the girl turn out to be like her mother, but her mother is destined to be in your lives until she dies. I wish you luck.
    Not everyone who has a toxic mother or father turns out like their parent. In fact, I would say that its more common for someone to end up the exact opposite of a toxic parent.

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    Default Re: Some Advice First Timer.

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    You can't so don't do it. If you see something out in the open you can call the police.

    Welcome to the world of the professional squatter.

    Think twice my friend about what you are about to delve into. Is the child yours?
    Yes this is me and my fiance daughter. We never seen any of this coming amd never expected this from family. What what do you mean about thinking twice before I dive into this.

    Quote Quoting llworking
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    Not everyone who has a toxic mother or father turns out like their parent. In fact, I would say that its more common for someone to end up the exact opposite of a toxic parent.
    I agree 100% percent

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    Default Re: Some Advice First Timer.

    What does your fiancé have to say about the matter? Does she see it as you do?

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    Default Re: Some Advice First Timer.

    Quote Quoting budwad
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    What does your fiancé have to say about the matter? Does she see it as you do?
    Yes shes on my side 100% and wants her gone just as much as I do if not more.

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    Default Re: Some Advice First Timer.

    OP did write "Both me and my fiance are fed up and on the edge and about to loose it."

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    Default Re: Some Advice First Timer.

    Quote Quoting Prodkey56
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    What what do you mean about thinking twice before I dive into this.
    It means when you marry someone, to a large extent you also marry that person's family. If your fiancée is not willing to set some firm boundaries with her mother - up to and including completely cutting her mom out of your lives if her mom doesn't shape up - you can expect more drama, heartache, and legal expenses as a result of Mom's actions. You both need to decide how that's going to be handled before you get married.

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