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    Angry Landlord is Charging for Pet Damage, Paint, Carpet and Trim After a Long-Term Tenancy

    My question involves landlord-tenant law in the State of: TX

    Question: I'm curious how:

    A. if the words "normal wear and tear" are typed on a document that means paint typically is expected to last 3-5 years and carpet lasts 5-8 years where any loss of service life expectancy is prorated.

    but;

    B. if the words "abuse" or "damage" appear on a document, in this case caused by "pet urine", then even after the typical service life of both paint and carpet have expired under "normal wear and tear" guidelines, the landlord can make the ex-tenant pay over $13,000 to redo the entire house to appeal to buyers to be sold?

    It's stunning how the landlord can arbitrarily choose words to indemnify them from the standard cost of doing business a landlord would typically do in refurbishing a 74-month rental and instead seek to be subsidized by the ex-tenant for a sum greater than the total of 6 months of rent.
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    Facts:


    I rented 3/2/2 house for 6 years & 2 months with pet deposits paid for 2 dogs ($350 1st dog, $500 2nd dog) where I was given a 30-day notice of termination of the lease that had expired and had been month-to-month for some time... with the option to buy. I bought a different house instead of the landlord's home and now it appears the term "RETALIATION" applies as not only will I not get my $1,595 security deposit back, I'm losing the deposit plus being charged an additional $12,000+ for things such as; $6,500 for carpet, $5,000 for paint, $1,600 for new baseboards, $1,160 for a new interior door, etc.

    Property info:
    The landlord's 2091 sq. ft home was built in 2006 and lived in by landlord, rented out, re-occupied by landlord and then rented to me after she divorced and moved out of state.
    Flooring: tile in bathrooms (2), hallways and kitchen. Carpet in living, dining, office & 3 bedrooms is over 6 years old.
    Paint: 2 bedrooms with 12 year old builder flat paint, remaining rooms painted in semi-gloss enamel by LL evident by poor finish & poor coverage.

    Move-out:
    The landlord moved to Chicago before I moved into her house and her friend/agent/broker husband & wife team representing her moved to Florida years ago thus on move-out day no one came to walkthrough with me and I was told to lockup and a locksmith would change the locks.

    Move-in:
    I'm just learning about the blacklight test after reading on this forum so while the landlord may have performed a blacklight test after I moved out a blacklight test was not performed to verify neither the landlord's cat nor her ex's male dog left the carpet in perfect condition and I have my doubts given the physical evidence of clearly restricting a dog's access within the house that was left for me as described below:

    Pre-existing Pets:
    It should be noted that other dogs (previous renters and the landlord's ex's male Golden Retriever) and allegedly the landlord had a cat (I think a Persian) lived in this house before my dogs with the landlord's ex-husband's male dog who lived there until the day before I moved in. With regards to the landlord's ex-husband's male dog - I thought it was *peculiar* to see at least 6 baby gates in a house WITH NO CHILDREN when I moved in (they're still there when I moved out) and it was also *peculiar* to see signs of an animal confined in various rooms for some reason such as there were and still are scratch marks on the garage side of the interior garage door, scratch marks in the door jamb trim in the guest bathroom at a height above the doorknob indicating possibly long confinement for some reason and scratch marks on the drywall next to the door jamb in one of the bedrooms. Initially I thought the baby gates were because the LL's ex's dog chased the LL's cat but, in hindsight, maybe the dog was peeing and that's why LL left as many baby gates as there are doorways that transition from tile to carpeted rooms.

    Also noteworthy that my dogs who allegedly caused $13k in damage on 6+ to 12 year old paint & 6+ year old carpet from their alleged pee fetish have not urinated once in the new house which was also previously occupied by dogs. In addition, my female Rottweiler was in heat when we moved to the new house so it seems logical that being in a new territory previously occupied by other dogs with one dog in heat and the male dog completely bothered that animals who would allegedly cause $13k in damage would seize this opportunity to continue their alleged bad habits yet that's not the case... 30+ days later there's no pee in the new house. They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks yet my 13 year old geriatric Rottweiler with severe hip dysplasia who is nearly blind hasn't peed in a month at the new place and it's not like he was peeing all over the house for 6 years seeing as I work a lot from home and was available to let the dogs out.

    Anyone who knows anything about wild or domestic canines & felines knows that if they smell a message from another animal in the form of urine they often respond in kind.

    Noteworthy:
    Unbeknownst to me, the landlord was waffling between moving back into the house or selling it the entire time I lived there and what prompted her to terminate my lease and put the house up for sale was my asking if I could get a cat for my daughter. Cat urine was the reason she said no and that was that, however, I'm not shocked that after discussing her apparent wealth of knowledge of the damages from cat urine that she would want me to fund refurbishing her home due to dog urine.
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    CHARGES:

    CARPET (6+ years old) - $6,500:
    According to the carpet cleaning company landlord specified I had to use (who I voluntarily paid to clean the carpet plus had them clean the tile & scrub grout lines when I moved out), the co-owner of the carpet cleaning company said the carpet in the house is "cheap" which "doesn't hold up to traffic" and "after 6 years she should give you a break on the carpet". I'm unaware of the total age of the carpet but it's older than the 74 months I lived there.

    PAINT (6+ & 12 years old) - $5,000 total; $2,500 for walls & $2,500 for trim:
    I never painted any room with a new color or anything to alter the "AS IS" condition stated on my lease when I moved in. Most of the walls & trim were painted by the landlord before I moved in which is evident by the amateur finish e.g. missed or thin spots with both rollers & brushes, bad cutting in around non-painted surfaces (vanity, mirrors, trim, etc.), trim half painted in 6yr old white and half in 12yr old builder "white" that's kind of yellow, the trim was painted around the door but the door itself still sports 12yr old builder paint and other things I can see having been a professional painter before. Also noteworthy that walls in rooms not featuring 12-year old builder paint in a flat finish were painted by the landlord in semi-gloss enamel paint which we all know is popular because it's *washable*... because it's an enamel... hence the reason it's used on trim, bathroom walls and sometimes on regular walls. If it'll hold up to condensation on the paint from daily hot showers it seems logical it would hold up to sporadic drops of moisture be it urine or a super soaker water gun.

    Other than the sheen of the walls matching the sheen on the trim telling me they were painted in semi-gloss enamel, I also know they're painted in enamel because a dog leaned against the walls in certain spots repeatedly during the 74 months I lived there which left oils from their coats on the wall that discolored it which took a few wipes with a damp sponge to remove the oil spots. That means it's an enamel which is both washable and not effected by topical moisture be it a wet sponge or urine.

    TRIM (12 years old) - $1,600:
    All of the trim in this house is MDF (sawdust glued & pressed into boards), including in the tile areas, where in spots the builder didn't do a good job with caulk to seal this cheap, moisture-vulnerable material and seeing as one has to use some sort of mopping (e.g. moisture via mop water or steam) to clean tile - the MDF is already damaged by the time you notice it swelling, spreading and warping. I wanted to illustrate this to LL but I was denied a walkthrough so, again trying to be a good guy and being the person who occupied that house longer than anyone on Earth, I texted a long list of what I noticed and among them was trim warped from insufficient caulk to seal it and years of sitting next to tile that requires liquid or steam to be cleaned.

    I am being charged for a windowsill for water damage as the 12 year old builder trim paint and cheap MDF trim were no match for a wet bathtub toy and I have no problem being liable for that.

    FRENCH DOOR (12 years old) - $1159
    The door to the office where the tile in the hallway meets the carpet in the office is MDF with glass panes and the bottom of the door which is above the tile is RAW MDF - meaning neither the builder nor the landlord applied any enamel paint to the bottom to seal the extremely porous surface that is raw MDF so when steam from my mopping the tile reached the raw MDF it caused it to swell. LL blames urine but it came in contact with a Shark steam mop every week.

    You can't buy MDF French doors at Lowe's or Home Depot because the lowest quality they sell today is a composite door which means raw, unpainted surfaces won't swell and peel from moisture but you can buy MDF online and have it shipped for half of this charge, however, this is about the price of a composite French door with labor.
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    Opinion: RETALIATION


    The landlord ("LL"), her friend/agent/broker (husband & wife team, "Party") and the lender the friend/agent/broker referred me to ("Lender") had decided among themselves that I was buying LL's home and this astronomical charge from LL and Party advising her is retaliation for not buying her home.
    "You'd be doing me a huge favor if you bought my house" - LL

    Once Party referred Lender I never had a reason to speak with Party again because I had no intention buying LL's house. Lender never did produce an approval letter as it is my OPINION they were dragging out the approval process on purpose to limit my options to only having time to purchase LL's house before I'd be homeless with 2 Rottweilers and a child. I didn't have a buyer's agent because I was still waiting on Lender to produce an approval letter, but Party was clearly working with the Lender behind the scenes. Evidentiary support of this exists in the written response I got from Lender when the ONLY address ***I*** *EVER* gave them wasn't the address Party gave them on the LL's house I actually never considered buying. Hours after Lender's flabbergasted written response I get a text from Party offering a lower sale price for LL's home, the address of the property I sent Lender, a comparison in price per square foot between the two, a quote on what they'd charge me to be my buyer's agent on the property I was ACTUALLY considering PLUS, convicted by a guilty conscience, a lie about how I must have sent Party's wife the address of the property I bought that has nothing to do with them... because how could they know anything about the other property if Party and Lender weren't working together behind the scenes?

    Whether or not this collusion between Party and Lender to sabotage my options as a consumer violates ethics I surely don't know, but it spooked me and gave me the idea Lender was serving LL & Party's interests instead of mine so I didn't respond to the text and the very next day went from application to approval to an accepted offer in 24-hours through a lender recommended by the agent selling the house I bought. A week before I had to vacate LL's property, Lender called to say, "We still don't have an approval letter for you" where I had to inform him I already bought a house. Shortly after that phone call I get a text from the landlord asking me about my business... clearly Lender contacted Party who then contacted LL.

    In a polite way I said all of the homes for sale, including LL's, want top dollar to cash in on the 50% market increase in the last 50 months and her rental home with the bare minimum of everything was competing against homes that homeowners lived in and upgraded from builder-basic as they lived there which were comparable to the same price per square foot LL was wanting for something that hasn't been touched in over 6 years.

    I also added as justification for not buying LL's home the fact that 6 years ago when Party showed me the house before I leased it I *specifically* asked about community pool access and I was *lied to* aka fraud. I know it was a lie because Party's main residence was blocks away from LL's home where Party had access to the pool in question but the section I was considering leasing in didn't have access PLUS Party rented LL's house before as well as the rental houses in the same section Party personally owned as rental property. Whether or not this is an ethical violation I also don't know but only getting 1 child in this life and already losing 6 years to a liar where the only time I could take her swimming was on vacation, I needed a place with pool access.

    BTW: one reason I deleted Party on Facebook years ago, never spoke to them and had no desire for Party to be involved in my business is because I was lied to and my daughter paid the price.

    LL doesn't have money and this is her only rental so I *SPECULATE* she had her mind set to make $100,000 on market appreciation like the house next-door Toyota bought that had been upgraded but her driveway has sunk and cracked, the front walk she had her cut-rate, low quality contractors redo has cracked, exterior trim has warped and pulled away from the house, she hired landscapers to remove St. Augustine she planted and replace with Bermuda sod and these same landscapers who already poorly did 2 previous jobs for her didn't do a good job so the St. Augustine is worse than ever, plus soon-to-be selling the house LL is competing with homes that don't have 12 year old HVAC, appliances, etc and had money spent on them over the years to compete for buyers when they put their homes on the market... all that said... she definitely has a motive to try to get me to subsidize her home beyond the $120,000 I paid in rent on a home that sold for $175k new.

    I know she doesn't have deep pockets because after she replaced 14 linear feet of rotted pine fencing with new pine fencing I was asked to live with a broken sink disposal because she couldn't afford to get it fixed. Being a nice guy, I lived with only using 1 sink and having a toilet plunger in the other sink to plunge stinky, standing water whenever I ran the dishwasher the last year + I lived there.


    QUESTIONS:

    Is it the tenants liability to cover repair or trim when pre-existing paint finishes and caulking of moisture-vulnerable materials done by either the builder or LL prior to move-in and are effected by regular cleaning such as mopping tile as directed by the lease to maintain the property?

    Can the tenant be charged for cost to refurbish with better materials than what was allegedly damaged?



    This seems horribly unjust and I lack the vocabulary to express how I wish my thread was quibbling over $200 instead of $13k+.

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

    I doubt many people will read your entire saga, so you might want to condense it.

    Do you have move in/move out pictures? Witnesses?

    Are you being sued?

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

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    I doubt many people will read your entire saga, so you might want to condense it.

    Do you have move in/move out pictures? Witnesses?

    Are you being sued?
    Thank you for your response!

    I no longer see the edit button to be able to condense it but if anyone could address the opening question before getting into the weeds that would be helpful:

    How come a normal landlord ending a 74-month rental to put the home on the market for sale or for rent would repaint & install new carpet because that's SOP to compete with other properties in the business they've chosen but a landlord who claims damages from abuse is able to itemize over $14,000 to make the ex-tenant pay redo their entire house?

    "Normal wear & tear" = 3-5 on paint & 5-8 on carpet - loss of service life = prorated on the cost of what was damaged.

    "Abuse" = make the ex-tenant pay $14,000 to repaint 6+ & 12-year old paint & re-carpet 6+ (maybe 12) year old carpet in a rental after 74 months in finishes & materials better than what was damaged.

    Also I read somewhere that when a tenant is assessed damages it is based off the cost of the carpet/paint the tenant damaged and the service life that was lost as opposed to a "windfall" such as this where the tenant is charged for the replacement costs of materials and professional labor better than what was damaged?

    Photos:
    I have no move in photos nor move out photos... I've rented many homes in my 43 years and never experienced anything like this. The landlord and her friend/agent/broker have no evidence LL's ex-husband's dog left no urine when he moved out the day before I moved in. In this house I've shot images of models published by SI, Maxim, etc - meaning it wasn't nasty inside & ankle deep in pee with models coming in to shoot, but no images of carpet and pad.

    LL's amateur paint job before I moved in left paint on removable items like plug covers, switch plates, etc. so I took them to Lowe's to match the paint in the 6+ & 12 year old aged status it was on the wall, compared to paint still in cans in the garage, so that when I left there wasn't a single mark on any wall in the entire house and the walls appeared to be FLAWLESS (I'm a photographer who used to be a painter so I have good eyes for detail). I even matched up the 12-year old builder paint color to mud nail holes and marks I didn't make in one of the bedrooms no one entered because it was LITERALLY packed with boxes the entire time I lived there.


    Witnesses:
    The only persons other than myself in the house the day I moved out was the landlord-specified carpet cleaning company who said the carpet was cheap and she should give me a break on carpet on a 74-month old rental. Landlord is like a 2nd daughter to her friend/agent/broker so I would imagine they planned to not walkthrough with me so they could charge me to remodel the house after their attempts to sandbag my loan process to stick me with this house failed.

    The area where my sectional sat for 74-months was worn out from foot traffic because it's "cheap carpet" that "doesn't hold up" and the co-owner of the carpet cleaning company stated where under "normal wear & tear" I wouldn't be charged but I imagine LL is declaring damage so I have to pay as if "normal wear & tear" didn't require it to be replaced anyway.

    Am I being sued:
    Not yet, but the landlord will have to sue me because I'm not giving her the $12k+ balance she wants within the 10 days specified. I plan to fight this.

    My question is what evidence does the LL have that neither the LL's cat, nor the LL's ex's male dog (who would be the reason there were 6 baby gates left in a house with no children) nor pets from previous renters, provided this is original carpet, didn't cause any damage prior to my moving in that would make me liable to pay to remodel the entire house?


    I feel like this is retaliation for buying a house that wasn't the landlord's and I never represented that I was going to buy it.

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

    If the landlord sues you, you can try to convince the court that the damage resulted from ordinary wear and tear, and not from anything you or your pet did to the premises that would qualify as damage.

    Also, the landlord should only be charging the depreciated value for paint and carpet. A twelve-year-old paint job or carpet in a rental property will normally be depreciated to a value close to $0, if not $0.

    Had you taken pictures that showed that the patch work you did was entirely invisible to the naked eye, you could have submitted those pictures as evidence in court. However, when you choose to patch and paint walls that's not ordinary wear and tear -- that's damage. Odds are that, contrary to your belief, the areas you patched were visible -- even if you matched the underlying texture or smoothness of the wall, because the places you paint will "flash" under certain lighting or when viewed from certain angles. Perhaps the landlord took pictures.

    You are free to try to argue that the damage to the premises existed when you moved in. But if you're going to start claiming that there actually is damage, then you're undermining your contention that the alleged damage is in fact from your ordinary cleaning activities and should not be charged to you.

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

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    If the landlord sues you, you can try to convince the court that the damage resulted from ordinary wear and tear, and not from anything you or your pet did to the premises that would qualify as damage.

    Also, the landlord should only be charging the depreciated value for paint and carpet. A twelve-year-old paint job or carpet in a rental property will normally be depreciated to a value close to $0, if not $0.

    Had you taken pictures that showed that the patch work you did was entirely invisible to the naked eye, you could have submitted those pictures as evidence in court. However, when you choose to patch and paint walls that's not ordinary wear and tear -- that's damage. Odds are that, contrary to your belief, the areas you patched were visible -- even if you matched the underlying texture or smoothness of the wall, because the places you paint will "flash" under certain lighting or when viewed from certain angles. Perhaps the landlord took pictures.

    You are free to try to argue that the damage to the premises existed when you moved in. But if you're going to start claiming that there actually is damage, then you're undermining your contention that the alleged damage is in fact from your ordinary cleaning activities and should not be charged to you.
    Thank you for your reply, Mr. Knowitall!

    How is it that "normal wear and tear" means after a long-term 74-month rental the landlord repaints & re-carpets as SOP for the business they've chosen, in this case to appeal to buyers not renters as LL is selling the home, but in the very same 74-month rental if "abuse" or "damage" are claimed then the ex-tenant pays the full cost of replacement on 7 (6+)-12 year old materials?

    The landlord is claiming damage and wanting me to pay the full cost for new carpet, trim & paint due to pet damage. What the landlord doesn't have is evidence there wasn't pre-existing pet damage when I moved in. For all we know, her ex's dog peeing all over the house may have contributed to their divorce and necessitated the half dozen baby gates in a house with no babies.

    To be clear - by "patching" I meant nail holes I saw by filling it with sheetrock mud before I covered it in paint I got matched to the aged, existing wall color trying to be a nice guy by leaving the walls exactly as they appeared when I moved in. I only put 3 pictures on the wall so I patched the 3 nail holes I made plus others I saw that I didn't make but took care of because it took 5 seconds.

    I read that any liability assessed for damages is based off the cost of the materials damaged divided by the service life lost due to damage yet in this case the carpet is being assessed at 100% replacement cost for every room including 2 rooms no dog had access to, 100% on 12yr old flat and 7 (6+)yr old DIY semi-gloss, 100% for trim damage due to lack of caulk and being MDF and 100% on replacing an MDF French door with a raw MDF bottom that absorbed 74mos of steam from cleaning plus whatever else in 12 years where the replacement cost assessed is the cost of a composite that is higher quality & durability than what was damaged.

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

    Aside from what the LL can claim or prove, what will you be able to _prove_?

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

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    Aside from what the LL can claim or prove, what will you be able to _prove_?
    He can prove that he lived there 6 years, and the landlord cannot provide that either the carpets were replaced or the interior was painted during that time frame.

    So, at a minimum the paint was fully depreciated out, and the carpet (since it appears to be of lower quality) should be fully depreciated out as well. It should be immaterial that there is any pet damage, since everything should be fully depreciated out.

    OP is going to have to sue the landlord to get his deposit back and let the judge tell the landlord that he cannot charge him for those items.

    Plus, 6500.00 for carpet for a 2000 sq ft home is pretty absurdly high. I did my 2000 sq ft home for half that and I got good quality carpeting.

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

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    Aside from what the LL can claim or prove, what will you be able to _prove_?
    Rental:

    I can prove LL is doing some of the work I'm being charged for pros to do is being done by herself which questions the numbers she sent and proof of this is an Instagram post I just screenshot & bookmarked dated 6 days ago where she states she's "trying to save a buck" by doing it DIY along with a hashtag about a bad tenant... with the "bad tenant" being charged full price for professional work as itemized on the demand letter.

    I can prove the carpets were extremely wet when the LL-designated carpet cleaners left around noon on 31MAY18 (very wet, I fell twice transitioning from wet carpet to tile with wet shoes), I can prove that LL authorized and had knowledge I volunteered to pay to have the carpets cleaned hours before I had to vacate and that I was instructed to lock up the property which included closing doors & windows left open by the carpet cleaning company for ventilation and that I vacated as instructed. If carpets sat wet with no ventilation for a week I couldn't do anything about it because I had to vacate before midnight.

    I can prove my dogs with the alleged $14k pee fetish haven't peed once in the new house which also was occupied by dogs.

    I'm interested in reviewing LL's divorce transcripts to see if anything germane to my situation applies and if necessary subpoenaing or getting an affidavit from her ex-husband should anything about her ex's dog be found.

    Proof for my retaliation hypothesis is:

    I can prove, in writing, that LL's "2nd parents/real estate agent & broker" was colluding with the lender they referred where confidential information I disseminated to the lender was then transmitted by this lender to LL's "2nd parents/broker", who were not hired by me because why would I hire an agent/broker team living in FL for a house in TX, which must be an ethical violation.

    I can prove, in writing, that the lender LL's "2nd parents/broker" referred were unable to produce an approval letter even after 15 days while the other mortgage company, the mortgage company who was not colluding with LL's "2nd parents/broker", was able to produce an approval letter in 15 minutes.

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    He can prove that he lived there 6 years, and the landlord cannot provide that either the carpets were replaced or the interior was painted during that time frame.

    So, at a minimum the paint was fully depreciated out, and the carpet (since it appears to be of lower quality) should be fully depreciated out as well. It should be immaterial that there is any pet damage, since everything should be fully depreciated out.

    OP is going to have to sue the landlord to get his deposit back and let the judge tell the landlord that he cannot charge him for those items.

    Plus, 6500.00 for carpet for a 2000 sq ft home is pretty absurdly high. I did my 2000 sq ft home for half that and I got good quality carpeting.
    Thank you for your response!

    I estimate the carpeted areas in the home are 1,144 sq ft (from an estimate calculator that added up the room sizes I believe are pretty accurate) where 100% of the cost ranges between $2,631 @ the low end of $2.30 total per square foot (total = new carpet, labor, pad & haul off of old carpet) to the high end total of $6,406 @ $5.60 sq. ft.

    I'm guessing the price being paid is lower than what's listed on the demand letting since LL is bragging on Instagram about doing work herself to "save a buck".

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

    "I can prove my dogs with the alleged $14k pee fetish haven't peed once in the new house which also was occupied by dogs."


    This would not matter to a court.

    Neither would half the stuff you post above. And you have no legal business reviewing the LL divorce transcripts.

    Want to piss of a judge? Go into court wasting their time with most of what you have posted here. This isn't the trial of the century for heavens sake. How about sitting through a few hearings; you'll realize that most of these cases are presented and decided within just a short period of time. Drag it out with even a small percentage of what you arguing here and you'll likely to shoot yourself in the foot (so to speak) regarding the entire case.

    Gail

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    Default Re: Tx - After 74mo Ll Charging $13,000+ for Pet Damage: New Paint, Carpet and Trim

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    "I can prove my dogs with the alleged $14k pee fetish haven't peed once in the new house which also was occupied by dogs."


    This would not matter to a court.

    Neither would half the stuff you post above. And you have no legal business reviewing the LL divorce transcripts.

    Want to piss of a judge? Go into court wasting their time with most of what you have posted here. This isn't the trial of the century for heavens sake. How about sitting through a few hearings; you'll realize that most of these cases are presented and decided within just a short period of time. Drag it out with even a small percentage of what you arguing here and you'll likely to shoot yourself in the foot (so to speak) regarding the entire case.

    Gail
    I agree. Its simple. You lived in the property for 6 years with no painting or carpeting happening during that time frame. Therefore every thing is depreciated out and the landlord may not charge you for those items. It is immaterial that the landlord is claiming pet damage. You are trying too hard to defend yourself against something that is irrelevant.

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