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    Ok, while my first post was answered, there IS a secondary issue that falls under THIS forum.

    In early 2004, my wife accepted the 'deal' offered by her father, to move our family onto his property, free of charge, and to live here until his eventual death, at which time we would gain the property.

    1st Question: Does this in fact constitute a "tenancy for specified time"? (There was never a rental agreement, it was purely verbal.)
    "In all cases where premises are rented for a specified time, by express or implied contract, the tenancy shall be deemed terminated at the end of such specified time."
    RCW 59.04.030

    ie, is this technically then, a "tenancy" where the "specified time" is my father in law's lifetime?

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    The background is in thread. Giving somebody permission to live on your property, rent-free, doesn't create a tenancy, let alone one from which you could not be evicted.

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    Mr. KIA, thank you for your help throughout- please realize that questioning your responses is not a signal of disbelief, but of trying to sort out the huge confusion we call "law."

    (Yes, we are pushing again today, to locate an attorney...)

    How would, at least on the simple level, this situation differ from that of the thread you answered here, other than the state invovled?

    The main difference I can see is that the time period we have been living here is much longer than the 2 months mentioned in that other thread- since February 2004.

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    The other situation would be as if your father-in-law tried to retroactively charge you rent for the period before he told you to leave the property. That situation has absolutely no relevance to your question.

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    Ok, understood. For the 'record' though, to date, he has still not told us to leave - just informed us that he wishes to raise the rent. The reason I was asking about tenancy here, is that amongst the various forms, the RCW codes do seem to suggest the terms occupancy vs. tenancy, but in some examples, crosses the two, as in "tenancy by sufferance only."

    In truth, we are the party being essentially assaulted verbally and legally, and really feel that we've never done anything other than that asked of us. So we are at this point 'grasping for straws,' hoping there is SOME form of protection out there in cases such as this, which cannot be all that uncommon?

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    If you start paying rent, you'll be a tenant.

    What legal protection are you trying to find? You're not going to find a law which allows you to live on somebody else's land rent-free, and right now it's your father-in-law's land.

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