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    Default When Will an Investigation for SSI Fraud Begin

    I mailed information regarding SSI fraud to the SSI fraud hotline in Maryland two weeks ago. The person I reported was working under his real name and a fake social security number while collecting disability. I sent a picture of one of his checks and stubs which were from 2015, pictures of him on social media in the trucks of the company he was working for and all the other information they need including his phone number real social security number, his birth date and actual address. Does anyone know how long it takes for them to investigate this? Itís pretty much an open and shut case.

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    Default Re: How Long Before an Investigation After SSI Fraud is Reported

    Sometime from a few weeks to never. You can't force the government to take action here.

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    Default Re: How Long Before an Investigation After SSI Fraud is Reported

    I know. I was just hoping with all the information provided it wouldn’t take so long. It’s not like this is going to be much work for them. It’s an open and shut case with a brief investigation.

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    Default Re: How Long Before an Investigation After SSI Fraud is Reported

    And you can be absolutely sure of this one thing. You will never hear about it, unless a few years from now this person's brother in law's sister tells you that he got in trouble with SSI, or in some other such convoluted manner. You have no way of finding out otherwise. And since they were already quite busy before you called in and provided your information, it may be as much as six months until they get around to checking this out. They're not 911 or something emergency, sirens did not go off and the police have not been called to his home. There's also a very good possibility when the agency receives this type of information that a tipster is working out a grudge, making up stuff, and they're not in business to immediately go smash all fraudsters just because you've called them and told them to.

    So this information will be put into the system, they'll eventually do an investigation on their own schedule, and perhaps, eventually, something may happen. The person may be sanctioned, he may have to pay the money back. Chances are VERY small that he'll be criminally prosecuted, but no matter what happens, you won't be notified.

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    Default Re: How Long Before an Investigation After SSI Fraud is Reported

    Frankly, if we're talking about SSI, it's going to be harder to maintain the fraud even without it being reported. Not only does he need to hide the fact he is working but he needs to hide where that pay is going because SSI is very asset restricted. Now if you're talking SSDI instead, then yes.

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    Default Re: How Long Before an Investigation After SSI Fraud is Reported

    If he's been doing this since 2015, its pretty likely that he is on SSDI, not SSI, which is needs based and has a lot more organized investigating going on at the state level. Either way, it will be an unknown amount of time for the tipster before they come to take him away.

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    Default Re: When Will an Investigation for SSI Fraud Begin

    Not open and shut at all. When did the work start? How many hours a day? How much is he paid? How is he paid? Couldn't the pictures all be staged or just evidence of something that he did a few times, not on a sustained basis? If so, for how long? If he is working under a fake SSN, then how is SSA going to connect him to the pictures if he doesn't admit it? How do you know the SSN is fake? How do you even know he is currently receiving benefits? Do you know the diagnosis that he was approved for and the physical and mental limitations that were documented? Does he have an active Ticket To Work?

    You could be right that he is working. But what policy did he break? Is he performing SGA? Does he have substantial medical improvement from what he was approved for? SSDI beneficiaries are not prevented from returning to work. Some hide stuff that they don't need to hide.

    And like other posters have said, you will never be notified, you will never know unless he admits it or someone who knows gossips about him. And then, you still don't know if they don't have accurate info. OIG will refer it to the local office and it will be assigned to someone. Six months is about right, considering workload priorities. But thanks for doing your part. If this is fraud, then you did the right thing.

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    Default Re: When Will an Investigation for SSI Fraud Begin

    Pictures of a payroll check and pay stub with a different social all sent to SSI. Iím sure if it was on the books that his valid drivers license was given to the company that could link him in the investigation. He used his real name so he could cash the checks with his drivers licence.

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    Default Re: When Will an Investigation for SSI Fraud Begin

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    Pictures of a payroll check and pay stub with a different social all sent to SSI. I’m sure if it was on the books that his valid drivers license was given to the company that could link him in the investigation. He used his real name so he could cash the checks with his drivers licence.
    How did you get your hands on his payroll check and stub?

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    Default Re: When Will an Investigation for SSI Fraud Begin

    So you think he supplied his driver's licence to the company, but not his Social Security card. And that the company either doesn't use E-Verify to match the SSN given to his name or ignored the mismatch. And that the company (that didn't require proof of a correct SSN) will cooperate in opening up their books to send a copy of this driver's license to SSA, voluntarily. I suppose it could happen.

    Also when you sent in the paycheck with the incorrect SSN, did you also send the correct SSN or at least enough information that SSA can find the correct SSN? A name is not enough.

    I hope SSA can obtain enough info to determine if there is any fraud in this case or not. It is not as easy as you think.

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