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    Default Re: Possible Shoplifting Charges

    thanks for the quick responses guys...

    so i understand that they might not press charges since the cops weren't called, i wasn't made to sign anything and my picture wasn't taken. all i was told to do was pay for another case and that i couldn't shop there again. i understand the whole intent to deprive situation but is it still depriving when you don't leave the store with the merchandise?? i checked what constituted shoplifting here in texas and it says i have to actually leave the store with the item and since i didn't do that, does it help me?? as for the damages bill, i did end up paying for another case that wasn't opened, can i still be sent a bill even though that's what i was told to do, were the employees just trying to make an extra sale for the store or might this have been a slap on the wrist?? i've never really heard of shoplifters being told to pay for merchandise of the same value before so i'm pretty confused about that.

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    Default Re: Possible Shoplifting Charges

    Your situation is not your typical shoplift. That is why you were given option to pay. As I said early on in some states (not yours) concealment is a crime. Your only crime was damaging merchandise and you righted that wrong. Now far "bill" you might expect a letter of "Civil Demand" if that does come you may have good cause to fight it if its worth the time and money.

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    Lightbulb Re: Possible Shoplifting Charges

    I'm wondering what line of thinking led to letting the poster purchase an unopened piece instead of the one he opened. Logic de Target???

    Had the poster pulled that in our store, it'd been property damage, then PD would've done ya for stealing 'cause our state has a concealment law.

    ........sell him a shiny new one then show 'im to the door....that's rich!!!

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    Here there was a taking with intent to deprive, then a change of heart. Whether or not the stop violates Target rules is a separate issue.
    You are correct, these are two separate issues BUT he never deprived the merchant of the item. In order for shoplifting charges to be filed, he must have removed the item from the store with intent to deprive. The ripping of the package shows intent, but he did not follow through so the shoplifting charges will not be able to be filed. But whatever....

    They can probably file a myriad of other charges against you, but it is not likely. The reason that a manager is approaching them is because "Security" is confrontational.

    All this is a mute point because the guy screwed himself when he told the APS that he intended on taking it, but then got scared. Count your blessings partner.

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    .........All this is a mute point.......
    Did I miss the point that a mime became involved in this story?

    Now if this point becomes MOOT, meaning disingenuous to the gist of the storyline or basis of occurrence, then there's no need for a mime at all.

    Signed, "uneducated, store-level dick"!

    Last I checked, an arcticle of mechandise "ripped" from its original packaging and rendered unsaleable is, in fact, depriving the retailer of said item. Doesn't take Einstien to figure out that the item cannot be sold as new.

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    Oh, now I see you have turned into the all mighty grammer police man also! Damn, I should have known you would try to attack my words since my arguement was so solid. Go to "google" type "define: mute" in the search box and hit enter. Then click on the first link. Repeat for "moot".

    Ripping an item out of its package does not necesarily mean that the merchant is deprived of that item, it means that it cannot sell that item and might just maybe have to return it to the DC for CREDIT where it will be charged off the stores inventory. No loss here! Since you work at the Fast Mart in your "hood", you really don't have high volume, but here in the big city, we have two trucks a day. Do you think that everything comes off pristine and perfect? Should we charge the truck drivers and the dock workers with vandalism because they cracked that glass or ripped open that package? With you in charge the whole store would be locked up.

    Why are you debating this anyway? The guy told the AP guys that he was intending to steal it so he screwed himself in the end.

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    Quote Quoting souperdave
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    Did I miss the point that a mime became involved in this story?

    Now if this point becomes MOOT, meaning disingenuous to the gist of the storyline or basis of occurrence, then there's no need for a mime at all.

    Signed, "uneducated, store-level dick"!

    Last I checked, an arcticle of mechandise Learn how to spell or at least use spell check before you make remarks about other people's spelling,punctuation or word usage. "ripped" from its original packaging and rendered unsaleable You are making an assumption. The item might not be "rendered unsaleable. We were not there, so we are just guessing as to its condition before/after this dude tried to steal it. is, in fact, depriving the retailer of said item. Doesn't take Einstien to figure out that the item cannot be sold as new. Not being able to sell something as new doesn't mean that the merchant was deprived of the item. Retailers sell stuff "used" or "open box" all the time, so this is irrelevant.


    Better luck next time bucko.

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    Default Re: Possible Shoplifting Charges

    Why is it I can't find the "MOOT" button on the remote.....bam you really are an ignorant jaggoff.

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    Why is it I can't find the "MOOT" button on the remote.....bam you really are an ignorant jaggoff.
    Let the first person who has never made an error on a forum cast the first stone.

    Like I said previously, when the arguement is so solid it cannot be defeated, go after the poster and nitpick - a true sign of a grade a moron.

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