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So whats your problem and purpose here? You don’t appear to want responses but merely garner a response so you can try to impress those here. Here’s some news; you’re not impressing anybody.
Well, I've been systematically shafted by internal affairs on these issues, as I can only imagine they don't want to hold their own police to any sort of fire, and like I said I am trying to get to a 42 USC court but have been unable to make it there in the mean time -- so it should be obvious that I am simply trying to confirm my findings on a LEGAL FORUM (gee, what a concept) where I can, dare I say, get a second opinion, and maybe even find that attorney to which I seek help from.

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So if you’re on private property tell the cops to get lost. Don’t be surprised if when asked if they mind Walmart will state they do.
Maybe the point I'm trying to make is that I HAVE TOLD THE COPS TO GET LOST, AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, OFFERING PURE AND UNADULTERATED, EXCULPATORY FACT TO THEIR FACES, and have been SYSTEMATICALLY shafted by them, and falsely arrested by them, and thrown in jail by them, and had police reports falsified by them, and had their internal affairs stick up for them, etc. etc. etc. You speak as though we live in a perfect world, where cops *always* listen to people on the streets, and leave people alone, and don't kidnap them, and don't violate their human rights, and don't downright human traffic them. Perhaps I started these threads to INFORM THE GENERAL PUBLIC that there may potentially be *actual* rich against the poor crimes against humanity going on, right underneath their noses, and that they (dare I say, you) need to get off their precious pedestals and stop automatically believing that cops are always good, and that the system is working, and that the people to which they pick up are just a bunch of bad guys.

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if you’re on public property you’re subject to the laws at hand.
To which I say, if you're a police officer, YOU'RE ALSO SUBJECT TO THE LAWS OF THE LAND.

Have you, like, ever, even once, just one time, tried on the thought that perhaps the reason why we have such a high crime rate in this country, is not simply because of a bunch of criminals committing crimes, but that there are, dare I say, SYSTEMIC RACIAL PROBLEMS PLAGUING OUR SYSTEM that directly involve downright genocidal, racist, bigoted, and usually rich, capitalist, police / DAs / judges / etc. that all seem to think, as I have now seen first hand them say, "that if all the homeless / transients / etc. could just get a job and a place" that those crime rates and respective jail populations would then go down?

It downright disgusts me the astounding racism that is going on in our country right now. And evidently right under our noses too.

Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith coundn't have said it better, exposing said racism right away (and that he's more part of the problem than the solution). He kinda touches on relating "the job and the place" (or lack thereof) to the problem of his overcrowded jails in this article...

Larimer Sheriff Smith Cites Homeless Transients Jail Capacity Woes

And then, going back, talks about needing to identify "the root cause" of homeless / transient behavior in this article...

Sheriff Smith We Must Address Root Cause Transients

...without so much as a BLINK OF THE EYE, that the root cause of homelessness / transientness, may actually be, OH I DON'T KNOW, a totally racist and overly-privileged society thinking they can LABEL a group of people as homeless / transient / undesirable / fill in whatever super racist, genocidalist, eugenics type of identifer here that you must use so that you can STOP THE BLAME FROM DIRECTING BACK AT YOOOOOOOOOOOOOU.

Ultimately, this racist / genocidalist type of mentality I believe is what is causing our country to fall into the same rut like that of Nazi Germany. Everybody seems to want to treat poor / black / alleged criminals / defendants / undesirables / second class citizens as GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT, and not INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. And even if people are found to actually be *guilty* of a crime, just because they did it, I have a hard time believing that they *truly* knew what they were doing was wrong -- much like you or I would know it is wrong -- otherwise THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! So this fake holding every criminal to this fake fire, is I believe a fake attempted ego collapse being committed by every cop / DA / judge / jury / etc. when we should be SERIOUSLY looking into the real reasons why these people have done what they did, namely how did they arrive at such an incorrect world view -- was it their parents, the school system, their friends, the government? Because nobody seriously goes out and just commits a crime willy nilly. I think it comes down to MEDICAL NEGLECT and an INFORMATION DEFICIENCY that we are not addressing because it would make us all feel yucky that we are the ones who actually failed an otherwise innocent person, and that we are the ones who are now victim shaming them in order to get out of our own crimes of failing them, and that it is US who are in the wrong, in the first place, and that WE JUST NEED TO START OWNING UP TO THAT.

Case in point, I got convicted as a young adult of several kleptomania related crimes, and the DA and everybody literally duped me into pleaded guilty to those crimes, and even to ones I didn't even commit, all because I didn't know any better, I just needed to have my ego collapsed correctly and it was not, and sure enough, the DA didn't want to look backwards in his investigation to simply find out that I had a child abusing father who I had stolen from multiple times while being a minor, who failed to punish me on every level, failed to collapse my ego that what I was doing was wrong, and that in the end, I got PUNISHED totally unnecessarily, and now my record tarnished for life, all because I just needed to learn a simple lesson that other children got to learn when they were younger, but I have to be labeled a failure for the rest of my life because I learned later. Sadly, nobody figured out that it was a simple case of kleptomania that I was suffering from, and so even while on probation after committing my crimes, I still stole, from my next job, and the one after that, until I *FINALLY* realized what was going on, and had to literally teach myself that what I was doing was wrong, WITHOUT ANY HELP WHATSOEVER FROM A SINGLE SOUL AROUND ME. My parents didn't help me (they still don't think kleptomania exists) the DA didn't help me, my probation officer didn't help me, nobody helped me identify such a simple, MEDICAL BASED information deficiency that I had within me, and so instead, I got LYNCHED, and now I continue to get LYNCHED as I continue to have my record held against me, completely unfairly, by everybody, even though I am totally, and completely, NOT a kleptomaniac anymore, not in the least.

Moral of the story is, if we *actually* put down the pitch forks, if we actually loosen the nooses, we might start to realize that this country is just a massive kangaroo court that needs to EDUCATE ITSELF ON ITS RACISM, and STOP DOING IT, and instead start looking INWARDS if it wants to actually begin to fix its bad stats like the high crime and jail population rates that we currently have.

So far, based on all the posts you have offered, jk, you seem to be on the side of the racists. I don't like making such accusations, but you have literally done or said NOTHING that resembles holding that business owner who put up that fence illegally to any sort of fire FOR STEALING PUBLIC LAND, or to the cops for picking people up without a lick of lawful justification. You only seem to be doing EXACTLY WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE is doing that I have caught now -- all of you attempting to rationalize and outright deny the whole situation away entirely. Just because you think "I shouldn't be out there" or that "I'm a troll" or that "I'm baiting the cops" or that "I'm pulling their chains" or that (fill in whatever else rationalization you see fit so that you don't have to start looking BACKWARDS instead of forwards) it won't help you get any closer to figuring out what is really going on, and that YOU might be the problem, and not the criminals / transients / defendants / undesirables / etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Sorry for the rant. Just food for thought. You asked, I told. In my opinion, it should be considered totally illegal and HATE SPEECH to use the words homeless or transient. It is a way to dehumanize people so that we can subjugate their rights. People need to step down off of their privileged high horses, and GET REAL. People are people are people are people.