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    Question Can a Parent Stop a Minor From Seeing Her Boyfriend

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    cutting off all her contact with you until she reaches the age of majority
    What law (or lack thereof) enables this?

    Is there a more complete source of Missouri law I could look at? I'm aware I'm the one at fault for even being with a minor... however, it's a pain in the arse to be punished by a truly bipolar and inflexible guardian. Any loophole I can find would be most appreciated.

    And to be honest, the law is quite a pain and truly arbitrary when it comes to two mature, responsible people attempting to get their lives started early, but have to deal with the leeriness and selfish, fogged lens of generations past.

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    Default Re: How to Help a Minor Girlfriend Get Emancipated

    I am not here to help you find loopholes around the law. A minor under the age of 18 (older in some states, but 18 in yours) does not have the right to do anything but breathe unless they have the permission of their parent or legal guardian. There does not have to be a law giving the guardian permission to cut off her contact with you; that right is implicit in their guardianship of a minor. Your gf does not have the right to see or be in contact with ANYONE that her guardian does not give her permission to see, and that limit extends beyond 17 and into 18.

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    Default Re: How to Help a Minor Girlfriend Get Emancipated

    Granted, and your show of empathy (/s) belies your experience as an advice-giver for the law. That's highly unfortunate... Thanks for your time anyway.

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    Default Re: How to Help a Minor Girlfriend Get Emancipated

    If you are expecting anyone here to take the word of a biased teenager as gospel, your expectations are too high.

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    Default Re: How to Help a Minor Girlfriend Get Emancipated

    Of course not, and I'm biased, yes.

    I know this isn't a forum to discuss personal views on and I get that, but for the purposes of an intellectual response I want to give a little bit of background. I don't believe I'm that important and honestly don't care if you read it or not, I just figure that a senior member of this forum would have some pretty interesting and intellectual views on things.

    I respect the guardian's position. It's an important one. Designed to rear and grow the next generation based on that particular guardian's experiences. It creates character and individuality and teaches lessons to the next generation that might not otherwise be taught by society at large. I definitely understand the importance of making laws that govern minors; their brains aren't full developed and their ability to make calculated, appropriate decisions is undeniably hindered by their lack of experience. Been there, done that.

    The only stink/complaint I have to raise is how inflexible some parents/guardians are, and how little the law cares for what might actually be better for somebody. Another half year/year of living somewhere that makes her, to a very large extent, miserable? Sounds great! Would definitely pick that over a fiancé with a stable income and a far more loving home! Why is that not enough of a case to make to a judge who should be more interested in making decisions on a case-by-case basis rather than blanketing everything with laws that are downright and indubitably suffocating rules and regulations that really do seem arbitrary?

    I stress this only because it's been frustrating... highly frustrating... up to this point having to deal with a seemingly bipolar and seemingly rather mental old woman who judges me based on her past experiences with apparently, seemingly crappy men. If you want to talk about biased, then how about that person, mm? Biased only by her own experiences and seeming selfishness rather than what might actually make her charge happy and live a more fulfilling life. I'm not even against the guardian personally, I just want her to perhaps be a bit more flexible... but this said guardian is seemingly a two-faced liar and has manipulated this situation since the beginning.

    I don't expect pity or sympathy and honestly I don't even need empathy. I just wanted to know if - and yes, it's terribly, terribly written from what I've read thus far - there was any way for me to have the law behind me while I try to make my fiance's life better while also respecting the presupposed and undeserved authority of her guardian.

    I respect your opinion, I do, and I'd love to hear a more personal and perhaps empathetic response... if you're willing.

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    Default Re: How to Help a Minor Girlfriend Get Emancipated

    No. I do not see any way that the law is going to support your position. The law is even more biased, and it is highly unlikely that it will agree that an 18 year old has a better means to care for a minor child. And the MINUTE you suggest that getting her pregnant might help your position, the law is going to shut you down but good.

    I'm sure it's frustrating and I'm sure she's unhappy in her situation, but there is nothing you have posted that's any different from any other teen. The law does not think it's a good idea for you to "start your life early" - if it did, it would lower the age of majority.

    Finally, unless a doctor has diagnosed the guardian as bi-polar, I strongly suggest that you not call her so on the public internet before you find yourself on the wrong end of a defamation lawsuit.

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    Default Re: How to Help a Minor Girlfriend Get Emancipated

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    Of course not, and I'm biased, yes.

    I know this isn't a forum to discuss personal views on and I get that, but for the purposes of an intellectual response I want to give a little bit of background. I don't believe I'm that important and honestly don't care if you read it or not, I just figure that a senior member of this forum would have some pretty interesting and intellectual views on things.

    I respect the guardian's position. It's an important one. Designed to rear and grow the next generation based on that particular guardian's experiences. It creates character and individuality and teaches lessons to the next generation that might not otherwise be taught by society at large. I definitely understand the importance of making laws that govern minors; their brains aren't full developed and their ability to make calculated, appropriate decisions is undeniably hindered by their lack of experience. Been there, done that.

    The only stink/complaint I have to raise is how inflexible some parents/guardians are, and how little the law cares for what might actually be better for somebody. Another half year/year of living somewhere that makes her, to a very large extent, miserable? Sounds great! Would definitely pick that over a fiancé with a stable income and a far more loving home! Why is that not enough of a case to make to a judge who should be more interested in making decisions on a case-by-case basis rather than blanketing everything with laws that are downright and indubitably suffocating rules and regulations that really do seem arbitrary?

    I stress this only because it's been frustrating... highly frustrating... up to this point having to deal with a seemingly bipolar and seemingly rather mental old woman who judges me based on her past experiences with apparently, seemingly crappy men. If you want to talk about biased, then how about that person, mm? Biased only by her own experiences and seeming selfishness rather than what might actually make her charge happy and live a more fulfilling life. I'm not even against the guardian personally, I just want her to perhaps be a bit more flexible... but this said guardian is seemingly a two-faced liar and has manipulated this situation since the beginning.

    I don't expect pity or sympathy and honestly I don't even need empathy. I just wanted to know if - and yes, it's terribly, terribly written from what I've read thus far - there was any way for me to have the law behind me while I try to make my fiance's life better while also respecting the presupposed and undeserved authority of her guardian.

    I respect your opinion, I do, and I'd love to hear a more personal and perhaps empathetic response... if you're willing.
    No there is no way to get the law "behind you" in this case. Ever. Until she is 18, she does what her guardian tells her. If her guardian is her grandmother, she listens to grandma. If grandma tells you to stay away, you stay away. It's that simple.

    She doesn't qualify for emancipation either.

    You've been told this several times. No one is going to agree with you or tell you how to find loopholes. The answers are right there in front of you. I'm not sure why anyone wants to get married when they're so damn young either.

    Of course her grandmother is biased based on her experiences - she's had more life experience than either of you combined. She doesn't have to be flexible. She doesn't have to do what you or her granddaughter wants done.

    How long until she's 18?

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