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    Default Possession of Drugs, < 20 Grams

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Florida.
    Hello, my name is Zachary and I was pulled over shortly after finishing smoking marijuana. The officer asked if I had anything in the car, which I immediately pointed out the 3 marijuana roaches sitting on my radio, behind the screen. I was given a citation for possession of less than 20 grams of marijuana.

    I have a 6 month old daughter and plan on enlisting in the navy after her first birthday. I have been stressing and not getting much sleep, due to the fact I'm expecting the worse to happen. I do not want my chances of enlisting taken away and more importantly, I don't want to be taken away from my daughter, no matter how long it would be.

    I used to smoke marijuana to self medicate myself, and haven't smoked since I was pulled over and won't ever again, being it's not worth being taken from my daughter.

    If there is any advice you could give me or whatever you can do to help, it would be more than greatly appreciated.

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    That is a misdemeanor that could end with you having a permanent criminal record. It is unlikely that will receive any jail time if this is a first offense. You need an attorney.

    Are you currently in contact with a recruiter for the Navy? If so, you should notify them of this because they will find it anyway. This will likely be a disqualifying event but you would need to discuss it with the recruiter. While a waiver is possible, it is unlikely at this time as the armed forces are still operating under a philosophy of lean budgets and staffing. If you are a highly desired candidate for whatever reason (intelligence, physical ability, aptitude for some difficult to fill field), that might save your bacon.

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    That is a misdemeanor that could end with you having a permanent criminal record. It is unlikely that will receive any jail time if this is a first offense. You need an attorney.

    Are you currently in contact with a recruiter for the Navy? If so, you should notify them of this because they will find it anyway. This will likely be a disqualifying event but you would need to discuss it with the recruiter. While a waiver is possible, it is unlikely at this time as the armed forces are still operating under a philosophy of lean budgets and staffing. If you are a highly desired candidate for whatever reason (intelligence, physical ability, aptitude for some difficult to fill field), that might save your bacon.
    I have never been in any legal trouble and it was less than half a gram. *facepalm* I've taken my asvab and qualified, I just want to be in my daughters life the first year so she remembers that I'm her daddy. She's everything to me.

    I've NEVER been in any legal trouble, and hope this doesn't stay on my record. I'm trying to find my own place, so don't really have the money for an attorney. I know getting a lawyer can be very expensive.

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    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Florida.
    Hello, my name is Zachary and I was pulled over shortly after finishing smoking marijuana. The officer asked if I had anything in the car, which I immediately pointed out the 3 marijuana roaches sitting on my radio, behind the screen. I was given a citation for possession of less than 20 grams of marijuana.

    I have a 6 month old daughter and plan on enlisting in the navy after her first birthday. I have been stressing and not getting much sleep, due to the fact I'm expecting the worse to happen. I do not want my chances of enlisting taken away and more importantly, I don't want to be taken away from my daughter, no matter how long it would be.

    I used to smoke marijuana to self medicate myself, and haven't smoked since I was pulled over and won't ever again, being it's not worth being taken from my daughter.

    If there is any advice you could give me or whatever you can do to help, it would be more than greatly appreciated.
    If you had plans to go into the military why on Earth are you using drugs? You realize that the military isn't issuing the waivers they did during the surge right? I agree you better tell your recruiter if you're in DEP (or whatever they call it now) or you've been in contact with one. They have to know. This most likely will affect your ability to enlist in the Navy.

    You need to at least find a lawyer who does free consultation and find out your options. I very highly doubt in this environment of the military that you will get a waiver. I don't know how the Navy does it but you would definitely not get one in the Army right now.

    Also leaving your daughter at a year isn't going to make much difference if you had joined now.

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    If you had plans to go into the military why on Earth are you using drugs? You realize that the military isn't issuing the waivers they did during the surge right? I agree you better tell your recruiter if you're in DEP (or whatever they call it now) or you've been in contact with one. They have to know. This most likely will affect your ability to enlist in the Navy.

    You need to at least find a lawyer who does free consultation and find out your options. I very highly doubt in this environment of the military that you will get a waiver. I don't know how the Navy does it but you would definitely not get one in the Army right now.

    Also leaving your daughter at a year isn't going to make much difference if you had joined now.
    I've never done drugs in my life, only smoked a plant that helped me in many ways that I don't care to give up, because I dealt with the stress of not having help before it.

    I spoke with the recruiter today who looked in the manual and said that it will not keep me from enlisting. All I've got to do is make sure to pay the fees and citation before enlisting.

    I wanted to enlist after my daughter's first birthday so I could be there for most of her ''firsts''. I wanted to watch her grow.

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    I've never done drugs in my life, only smoked a plant that helped me in many ways that I don't care to give up,
    We call that doing drugs. In fact, your denial and the fact you were arrested and are jeopardizing your desired military career fits the standard psychological definition of a person with a substance abuse problem.

    I spoke with the recruiter today who looked in the manual and said that it will not keep me from enlisting. All I've got to do is make sure to pay the fees and citation before enlisting.
    I hope that works out for you. I've seen services not inclined to issue waivers for those with criminal records ESPECIALLY substance abusers. Understand the military will not have a fond view of you continuing be a drug addict. You either clean up your act now or find something else to do with your life.

    I wanted to enlist after my daughter's first birthday so I could be there for most of her ''firsts''. I wanted to watch her grow.[/QUOTE]

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    I've never done drugs in my life, only smoked a plant that helped me in many ways that I don't care to give up, because I dealt with the stress of not having help before it.

    I spoke with the recruiter today who looked in the manual and said that it will not keep me from enlisting. All I've got to do is make sure to pay the fees and citation before enlisting.

    I wanted to enlist after my daughter's first birthday so I could be there for most of her ''firsts''. I wanted to watch her grow.
    If you already have some kind of anxiety or personality disorder or PTSD that might not qualify you to get into the military either.

    You realize that you're going to miss a lot of "firsts" and watching her grow being in the military right? You could end up on a ship deployed. Multiple times. You'll go on TDY (training). You'll have to do a lot of things that will take you away from her. That's a reality. You're going to miss her grow no matter her age if you're in the military. I'm just giving you the harsh reality. I'm in the Army and once my daughter' medical stuff is stable I have to go to a leadership course for six weeks. That's six weeks of her life I'll miss. Someday I could deploy again. That's 9 months or even up to a year that I'll miss.

    I'll tell you this you better stop smoking it because if you fail a UA after you're in the Navy you're ass is getting kicked out with a dishonorable. Keep that in mind.

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    Reason #1 I don't come to forums for help; illiterate ****s like yourself. Just wanted to see what people had to say and if I could get any good tips. If you knew how to read, I stated I was CITED for possession, not arrested.

    Just because I'm pro weed, doesn't mean I have a "substance abuse problem". You can't even overdose on marijuana, therefore I don't think you could ever put those two into the same sentence without sounding stupid.

    Marijuana is a plant that helps MANY people out in several different ways. If you do not understand this, then you need to read up on your facts. It's not even a "gateway drug" as people assume. I've been offered a few different things, but do not do DRUGS.

    Now if I were addicted, which I assume is what your unintellectual self meant, I wouldn't quit smoking in order for me to enlist into the navy. I would have no reason for being drug tested and would still be smoking all of the marijuana I wanted to. I'm 20 years old and would like to better myself in a career, so I'm going to do so at a young age.

    You can not so kindly go **** yourself, but after you look up how much marijuana has benefited several many people.

    By the way, recruiter said I can enlist with my misdemeanor. Again, learn to read champ. I can't wait to bust my ass for my family and give them everything to prove to morons like you that marijuana doesn't make someone a bad person. Not that I will smoke again in the future, but will never be against it and it never changed me
    Lighten up Francis. It doesn't matter what your view is on marijuana. Federally it's still illegal and in the military it's illegal and if you are caught with it in your system or using it you will be dishonorably discharged. They aren't giving people second chances anymore. You can call people all the names you want but I'm IN the military and I've been in joint assignments and have an idea how the Navy works. If you don't check your damn attitude the Navy Chiefs will eat you up and spit you out if you make it out of basic.

    You really think there are no drug addicts in the military? Oh you naïve boy. Reality is about to kick you in the ass if you make it to boot camp and past it. I wish I could see you in boot camp. It would be glorious.

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    Nah, your ignorance is what triggered me. You're a nobody to me. A misinformed nobody, at that. I would never speak to a judge like that, are you dumb? Nowhere did I say I need marijuana to cope? I haven't smoked in 2-3 weeks and have 0 urged. I'm pretty sure I've already said this. I actually don't need anyone's help, now that I know I don't have to fight this misdemeanor. I can live a way more successful life than you with my "CRIMINAL" record. Suck a dick you piece of shit.
    "I've never done drugs in my life, only smoked a plant that helped me in many ways that I don't care to give up, because I dealt with the stress of not having help before it. "

    Your statement is where you said you needed weed to deal with the stress of not having help before you did it. So that means you needed weed to cope at some point. So yes flyingiron is right. You don't have to like it but don't be a dick about it.

    Yes you do have to fight it. You know recruiters lie right? Often. I would definitely look up some Navy regulations myself if I was you and make sure that all you have to do is pay the fees.

    free9man is right - the military changes rules and policies all the time. I have over a decade in and I have seen a LOT of things change. Also if you want to get a job with a clearance this MIGHT impact that.

    Man I hope you do make it because the drill instructors or whatever they're called in the Navy are going to have a field day with you. I've dealt with kids with attitude like yours who come into the Army. Either they lose the attitude or they don't make it long.

    You better start thinking about your daughter and not yourself. You will have a criminal record especially if all you do is pay the fines.

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    I've decided I'm going to pay all my fines after court and go ahead and enlist. I can handle my temper, but a nobody that doesn't know who I am and is stupid enough to say something about me being a drug addict and having substance abuse problems after CLEARLY stating I haven't smoked in a few weeks and have no urge to, I will be triggered. My mother taught me respect and I know who does and does not deserve it. I'm not getting an attorney to fight it, because there is a 2-3 day class you pay for to get it off of your record. I plan on retiring from the navy, and they accept me with the misdemeanor. That being said, it's not the biggest deal on my record, but to easily get it off in 2-3 days with a little bit of cash, is worth the time.
    You clearly don't know anything about addiction. There are addicts who have gone 20 years sober and relapsed.

    Really? You know who does and doesn't deserve it? Smh like I said you have a long road ahead of you in the military with that messed up attitude.

    Just because you "plan" something doesn't mean it will happen especially in the military. I "planned" to get out after four years. I'm about to hit 13 years. You can't plan for everything because life doesn't work that way kid.

    You have MORE of a criminal record? Did you tell the recruiter about this? Omg you are not gonna make it in the military. I will be very surprised if you make it out of boot camp.

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    Lighten up Francis
    Awesome.

    He won't need to worry about his daughter being take care of. I'm sure Jody is waiting...

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    We call that doing drugs. In fact, your denial and the fact you were arrested and are jeopardizing your desired military career fits the standard psychological definition of a person with a substance abuse problem.


    I hope that works out for you. I've seen services not inclined to issue waivers for those with criminal records ESPECIALLY substance abusers. Understand the military will not have a fond view of you continuing be a drug addict. You either clean up your act now or find something else to do with your life.

    I wanted to enlist after my daughter's first birthday so I could be there for most of her ''firsts''. I wanted to watch her grow.
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    Reason #1 I don't come to forums for help; illiterate ****s like yourself. Just wanted to see what people had to say and if I could get any good tips. If you knew how to read, I stated I was CITED for possession, not arrested.

    Just because I'm pro weed, doesn't mean I have a "substance abuse problem". You can't even overdose on marijuana, therefore I don't think you could ever put those two into the same sentence without sounding stupid.

    Marijuana is a plant that helps MANY people out in several different ways. If you do not understand this, then you need to read up on your facts. It's not even a "gateway drug" as people assume. I've been offered a few different things, but do not do DRUGS.

    Now if I were addicted, which I assume is what your unintellectual self meant, I wouldn't quit smoking in order for me to enlist into the navy. I would have no reason for being drug tested and would still be smoking all of the marijuana I wanted to. I'm 20 years old and would like to better myself in a career, so I'm going to do so at a young age.

    You can not so kindly go **** yourself, but after you look up how much marijuana has benefited several many people.

    By the way, recruiter said I can enlist with my misdemeanor. Again, learn to read champ. I can't wait to bust my ass for my family and give them everything to prove to morons like you that marijuana doesn't make someone a bad person. Not that I will smoke again in the future, but will never be against it and it never changed me.

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    Default Re: Possession of Drugs, &lt; 20 Grams

    First off, when you start hurling insults, you should understand what the words mean. My post was quite literate. I'm not understanding what defect you find in them, but you appear to be lacking in communication skills.

    The cite IS the arrest. Not all arrests result in you being hauled off to jail.

    You can sit there and pout about marijuana being a plant, but many drugs are plant based. Just because it comes from a plant doesn't make it NOT a drug. And it remains that as far as your state, the federal government, and the MILITARY are concerned. It is an illegal drug. All your protestations do not change that. And the fact that your use of this drug is having adverse affects of your life (particularly since you insist you NEED it to cope), you do have the classic definition of a substance abuse problem. Normal people do not need durgs, plant or otherwise, to get through the day.

    Also, mature and sober people can express themselves without resorting to profanity. You try that in court. Sorry, we can not paint the rosy picture you wan tto hear that you will escape consequences for your CRIMINAL action and despite what your recruiter told you that the military will be OK with you as a ongoing substance abuser if they even accept you now, but we're trying to be realisticly helpful here.

    But since you act like a foul mouthed, immature sot, you can expect that most people here are disinclined to talk to you further. Good day.
    Perhaps you should try www.norml.org. The forums there will be more in line with what you want to here, if not reality.

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