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    Default How Can You Get Congress to Pass a Private Bill

    My question involves civil rights in the State of: OK

    something like a budget bill in the US House, one that's already had its differences hammereded out with the Senate and which it's known that the president is going to sign? Most have never heard of this possibility. I've heard that it costs half a million $ and that you have to find a congressman who'd leaving public life, and that you approach his campaign manager, who must register as a lobbyist to legally plead your case to the Representative.

    For those who dont know, this is how political favors are repaid. All politicians do this, but it's a well kept secret from the public. you can watch them doing it on C span anytime such legislation is actually passing. "the gentleman from Mass, a private bill, making Mr ABC mf of the year", etc. They all do it, so nobody questions the others doing it. Understand?

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    Default Re: Anyone Have Experience with Getting Rights Restored by Attaching a Private Bill t

    A private bill has to be passed by the Congress in the same manner as any other bill. That means both houses of Congress must vote to approve the bill and the president would have to sign it (or Congress would have to override any veto). This means that if a representative or senator wanted to attach a private bill to legislation going through Congress it would have to offered as an amendment to that bill and the bill would have to be approved by both houses. The point is that this is not something that can be done by just member of Congress alone. Good luck getting any representative or Senator to get a bill through to let any felon or person convicted of domestic violence regain his/her right to own firearms. The odds of that, especially in this political environment, are extremely low.

    Note, too, that paying the representative or Senator (or conditioning a contribution to his/her campaign fund) on passing a specific bill is prohibited by law as an illegal bribe.

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    Default Re: Anyone Have Experience with Getting Rights Restored by Attaching a Private Bill t

    guess you can't read. I said you pay the campaign manage to lobby for you. The politician gets no money, he's just doing a favor for his campaign manager. When the finalities are being hashed out, you can watch this being done. It happens all the time, just not normally for a felon, but I bet it's happened. and it will happen again, too. It's sad that the lawyers don't get a major cut, aint it? :-) Also note that I DID say you need a pol who's retiring from public life, so why would he care what anyone thinks about this? There's 435 of them, bound to be one retiring every 2 years. Also, I asked for someone who has had experience with this. That's obviously not you.

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    Default Re: Anyone Have Experience with Getting Rights Restored by Attaching a Private Bill t

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    guess you can't read. I said you pay the campaign manage to lobby for you. The politician gets no money, he's just doing a favor for his campaign manager. When the finalities are being hashed out, you can watch this being done. It happens all the time, just not normally for a felon, but I bet it's happened. and it will happen again, too. It's sad that the lawyers don't get a major cut, aint it? :-) Also note that I DID say you need a pol who's retiring from public life, so why would he care what anyone thinks about this? There's 435 of them, bound to be one retiring every 2 years. Also, I asked for someone who has had experience with this. That's obviously not you.
    You said offering to pay the representative’s campaign manager to lobby the representative to sponsor the bill, and that too can be illegal. A campaign representative handling a Pennsylvania mayor’s campaign plead guilty just a year ago to federal charges for bribery and corruption for taking and soliciting payments in exchange for helping the businesses making the bribes get public contracts. Read the story here: http://www.readingeagle.com/news/art...-reading-mayor

    If it was the representative’s former campaign manager who is a registered lobbyist and you are simply paying him his lobbying fee that would be a different story. But that’s not what you said.

    I did note that you said you’d need to get a public official who was retiring to go along with it. But you evidently did not read my reply very closely. I told you that the bill has to be passed like any other, meaning that your retiring member of Congress still must get a majority of members in each house to vote for it. He or she cannot do it alone. Now, let me ask you this: how many other members of Congress, the vast majority of whom are not retiring before the next election, will want to vote to restore firearms rights to felon or person convicted of domestic violence and thus hand his/her opponent in the next election a great weapon to use against them? I think that would be a very small number of members of Congress willing to take that risk, especially when they do not have any benefit whatsoever from doing it.

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    Default Re: Anyone Have Experience with Getting Rights Restored by Attaching a Private Bill t

    Quote Quoting DonR
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    guess you can't read. I said you pay the campaign manage to lobby for you. The politician gets no money, he's just doing a favor for his campaign manager. When the finalities are being hashed out, you can watch this being done. It happens all the time, just not normally for a felon, but I bet it's happened. and it will happen again, too. It's sad that the lawyers don't get a major cut, aint it? :-) Also note that I DID say you need a pol who's retiring from public life, so why would he care what anyone thinks about this? There's 435 of them, bound to be one retiring every 2 years. Also, I asked for someone who has had experience with this. That's obviously not you.
    Well, aren't you the entitled little brat. You want help? Go pay an attorney to listen to your rudeness.

    P.S. Blessings on TM for patience and continued attempts to help those who are helpless.

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    Default Re: Anyone Have Experience with Getting Rights Restored by Attaching a Private Bill t

    Hopefully, it's a DV misdemeanor you're worried about because a federal law will do NOTHING for you because Oklahoma will still bar you from owning a gun as a felon. Federal law will not preempt that. The only way for a felon to get gun rights in OK is to get a governor's pardon. Of course, if you could do that, you'd not need the federal action as the feds will accept the restoration of rights at the state level.

    There actually is an enacted redress procedure for restoring gun rights at the federal level. The problem is that it's specifically defunded. You'd do better to lobby to get the congress to actually permit the existing system to work, rather than granting you a special exception.

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