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    Default Does Your Employer Have to Investigate a Theft Before Firing You

    My question involves labor and employment law for the state of: North Carolina

    I was a store manager for the company __________ up until 2-17-17 when I was terminated for a bank deposit gone missing. February 3rd, I did my usual routine, counted the stores monies, recorded the information, bagged it and went straight to the bank where I deposited the bag (with over $5000 in it) into the key accessible night deposit box.
    Now, almost 3 weeks later, the bank reported to my company that they did not receive that bag. Another Manager and I went to the bank, asked to see transaction records, and bags collected, we also asked to see cameras, but they claim they only have indoor ones and really weren’t willing to look into it any further. I was terminated after loss prevention and my Market manager came in early Friday morning to question me. Everyone knows I did not take it. Supposedly, I only have proof from MY (former) store's cameras that I properly left with the money and drove in the direction of the bank.
    I am not being charged, however, I feel this will taint my good name and follow me through future employment, despite my innocence. I do not understand why my company is not looking into this further, either. 15 years I have worked in retail and handled money without fail or issue. Is there anything that can be done regarding my termination or even in trying to find the deposit, that couldn’t have just disappeared? Just truly feel that for corporate to discard such a dedicated employee is within itself an injustice, but to do this way, is almost criminal.
    I appreciate your time in reading this, and appreciate any information given.

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

    It's going to be very hard to prove you didn't take it if the bank is unwilling to work with you. I am a bit surprised that the bank doesn't have better tracking.

    Your employer did nothing wrong by terminating you. It stinks but the fact is that the deposit went missing on your shift and the bank is taking no responsibility.

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

    I see nothing unlawful in your post.

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

    If your question is, is there any law I can invoke that will force the employer and/or bank to investigate or alternately if your question is, is there any law I can invoke that will force my employer to rehire me, the answer to both questions is no, there is not. It may or may not have been fair to term you but it was not illegal (google At-will employment), and the law does not dictate how or even if an investigation is made.

    Do I think it's foolish to fail to investigate? Yes, of course I do. Is the employer/bank violating any laws or protected rights in failing to do so? No, they are not.

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

    Sounds like a bummer, if it's all true. That's said...

    Given that an employer can fire you for anything, absent a contract that spells out acceptable reasons for termination or a collective bargaining agreement. That you did your usual routine is meaningless and your stores cameras showing that you took the money and headed in the direction of the bank are also meaningless they only show that you took the money and left.

    The bank is only going to investigate as far as their responsibilities end, namely with the drop box. They have no record of the drop bag, no record of their ever having been a deposit and no video of you making a drop, whatever that would be worth, which is probably nothing.

    Given that you were interviewed by LP and that corporate LP interviewed you and found nothing this only means that they might not pursue a complaint against you but that's about it. As the person who handles the money and makes the drop you are the person, like Truman, with whom the buck stops. The money vanished and you were the one with whom it was entrusted, therefore you'e the one who will pay the price.

    Them firing you, in the face of you being the most bestest and dedicated employee in the world, is certainly not criminal...you lost $5000. That gives them cause to question your assertion about your incredible awesomeness. Also, it most certainly could and probably will 'taint' your good name in future employment. Those are the breaks.

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

    Quote Quoting Kphoto123
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    Is there anything that can be done regarding my termination
    Did you file for unemployment?

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

    Quote Quoting Kphoto123
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    My question involves labor and employment law for the state of: North Carolina

    I was a store manager for the company __________ up until 2-17-17 when I was terminated for a bank deposit gone missing. February 3rd, I did my usual routine, counted the stores monies, recorded the information, bagged it and went straight to the bank where I deposited the bag (with over $5000 in it) into the key accessible night deposit box.
    Now, almost 3 weeks later, the bank reported to my company that they did not receive that bag. Another Manager and I went to the bank, asked to see transaction records, and bags collected, we also asked to see cameras, but they claim they only have indoor ones and really weren’t willing to look into it any further. I was terminated after loss prevention and my Market manager came in early Friday morning to question me. Everyone knows I did not take it. Supposedly, I only have proof from MY (former) store's cameras that I properly left with the money and drove in the direction of the bank.
    I am not being charged, however, I feel this will taint my good name and follow me through future employment, despite my innocence. I do not understand why my company is not looking into this further, either. 15 years I have worked in retail and handled money without fail or issue. Is there anything that can be done regarding my termination or even in trying to find the deposit, that couldn’t have just disappeared? Just truly feel that for corporate to discard such a dedicated employee is within itself an injustice, but to do this way, is almost criminal.
    I appreciate your time in reading this, and appreciate any information given.
    This sounds like one big dog and pony show and it doesn't sound logical to me.

    3 weeks later, the bank reported to my company that they did not receive that bag
    It took 3 weeks for the bank to say that? Nothing about the deposit not showing up in the company bank account for 3 weeks? Who watches the company's bank account? No bells and whistles or red flags by the company for 3 weeks that $5K is missing?

    we also asked to see cameras, but they claim they only have indoor ones
    So they have indoor surveillance cameras that likely record 24/7. Where do you think the key accessible night deposit box deposits the bag? In the bank. It may be in a utility closet or some place not accessible to the public of course. But someone picks up the bags on the next business day and that would be on camera. Was it the cleaning crew the night of the drop? Were there any outdoor cameras for other business that would have recorded it?

    really weren’t willing to look into it any further
    Does that sound like something a bank would say when there is an alleged theft of $5K ?

    Everyone knows I did not take it
    That's right because they already know who did (the bank, your company, who knows) and this is just one big cover-up with OP being the scapegoat.

    I am not being charged,
    Why not? Someone should be charged.

    even in trying to find the deposit, that couldn’t have just disappeared?
    It all just doesn't sound right. If I were OP I would talk to an attorney about reporting the theft myself to the police and watch everyone try to cover their backsides. And then I would love to be a fly on the wall when the police go talk to the bank manager.

    Something isn't Kocher here. Just saying.

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

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    Something isn't Kocher here. Just saying.
    What doesn't sound right is your entire post.

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

    So you would be OK if this happened to you?

    How about we stick to the law. We already know about your revulsion. But your post says nothing about the law or the issue. Don't waste the bandwidth with your personal attacks. Oh wait, that's your MO. Sorry, I forgot. Doesn't your user name say it all?

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    Default Re: Terminated for Missing Bank Deposit, No Investigation Pursuant Despite Request

    So, Bud. Please tell us, with links, please, exactly what law has been violated here.

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