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    Default Re: False Abuse Claims

    Quote Quoting dvcaselaw
    My own mother hit me and encouraged my father to hit me. Does that count? I have been hit many times by women in relationships yet I have never raised one finger. I consider violence to be a stupid person's solution to a problem they don't have the wits to solve.
    So, you have a couple of anecdotal stories. Sorry, but that does not make you all knowledgeable on DV and the related issues.

    When I was growing up the expectation was that a woman would slap a man who got "fresh" or otherwise out of line with them. The man was expected to take it. That was life. However, far too many men (yes, it is overwhelmingly men that are abusers) do more than abuse their significant others, they dominate them to the point where many will risk jail themselves for perjury or a confession to a false report rather than risk the ire of their man!

    There are some very telling tomes available on the subject. Check out your local library and you might be able to find a few.

    Society is skewed towards women right now in terms of family law. Way skewed. Especially in liberal areas.
    If you were to say it was skewed toward the woman in the area of child custody and support, I'd tend to agree. But, in other areas, I'd say the law has tried to walk a delicate balancing act between the rights of the defendant and protecting the victim(s) of domestic violence. Sadly, recent case law has only made it tougher to make a case against an abuser when the victim goes sideways and recants or refuses to cooperate. In those instances we can almost guarantee repeat calls to the same couple ... only next time, the damage will be greater.

    I can cite curdling stories of domestic violence including a small number where the woman WAS making it up to get the man in trouble. Of course, a SMART guy gets out when that happens ... unfortunately, too many guys stick it out and end up getting snagged in the web of lies a couple of times before it can get sorted out.

    - Carl

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    So, you have a couple of anecdotal stories. Sorry, but that does not make you all knowledgeable on DV and the related issues.

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    If you were to say it was skewed toward the woman in the area of child custody and support, I'd tend to agree. But, in other areas, I'd say the law has tried to walk a delicate balancing act between the rights of the defendant and protecting the victim(s) of domestic violence.
    Anecdotal stories ... okay ... whatever... at this point I don't really want to talk to you anymore because you've put me down without any cause.

    What I've seen far more in relationships is the women using psychological manipulation to get what they want in really vengeful ways. Unfortunately a lot of guys get angry and sometimes violent when pushed to extremes that way, and as a result get into trouble.

    But since you've decided to attack me personally I won't talk to you anymore. Bye.

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    Quote Quoting dvcaselaw
    Anecdotal stories ... okay ... whatever... at this point I don't really want to talk to you anymore because you've put me down without any cause.
    But they ARE anecdotal stories.

    And please show me where I have put you down. I recall YOU were the one who commented that you had done a great deal of research on the topic, yet it is obvious you have not done nearly as much as you believe you have. That is understandable as many people feel they have a grasp of a complex subject when they in fact, do not.

    What I've seen far more in relationships is the women using psychological manipulation to get what they want in really vengeful ways.
    And that, my friend, is what we call anecdotal evidence. It might be true for what you have seen, but it does not make it anywhere approaching a universal fact.

    Unfortunately a lot of guys get angry and sometimes violent when pushed to extremes that way, and as a result get into trouble.
    Certainly. But it is still that male who makes the decision to cross the line from argument to assault. There is NEVER a good excuse to cross that line. A woman can push a man's buttons, but only the man makes the conscious decision to strike out.

    But since you've decided to attack me personally I won't talk to you anymore. Bye.
    I'm sorry you feel that way, but I do not believe I have attacked you personally at all. If you feel that discounting your self-professed knowledge and experience is a personal attack, than you may have a difficult time in discussing any issue when there are people who disagree with your opinion.

    - Carl

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