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    ...My lawyer is telling me that they rarely dismiss cases like this and that it will be a tough road....

    Your lawyer is right.
    Yeah, I've been reading up on these DV cases. Women can do pretty much anything -- lie, cheat, steal, take the kids, divorce, take the money, and then fake abuse, and you're pretty much screwed.

    I don't think I want to be dating or married any time soon. It's too dangerous for guys when women have this much power.

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    Yeah, I've been reading up on these DV cases. Women can do pretty much anything -- lie, cheat, steal, take the kids, divorce, take the money, and then fake abuse, and you're pretty much screwed.
    And the men who are suspects can pretty much bluster, intimidate, threaten and dominate their victims.

    So, do you have a magical answer or a wand to wave that will instantly determine the truth?

    I don't think I want to be dating or married any time soon. It's too dangerous for guys when women have this much power.
    Take a look at the victims of DV and then see who has the REAL power. I guarantee you that it ain't usually the woman.

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    And the men who are suspects can pretty much bluster, intimidate, threaten and dominate their victims.

    So, do you have a magical answer or a wand to wave that will instantly determine the truth?


    Take a look at the victims of DV and then see who has the REAL power. I guarantee you that it ain't usually the woman.

    - Carl
    I would tend to disagree. Things are skewed now in favor of women because of the media hype surrounding DV, if only for responsible men who do not commit acts of DV.

    For men who do commit acts of DV, yes, there probably is a small case they could be let off, but it seems that the system as it is now favors women.

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    I would tend to disagree. Things are skewed now in favor of women because of the media hype surrounding DV, if only for responsible men who do not commit acts of DV.
    And you base this opinion on what level of involvement with domestic violence?

    Are there false accusations? Sure. However, there are many, many more that are NOT reported out of fear of the abuser or fear of the consequences of the abuser's arrest.

    There are volumes of REAL data out there on the impact of domestic violence. I suggest you avail yourself of the true data and not rely solely on harrowing anecdotal accounts on the internet or the occasional media story from allegedly victimized men.

    For men who do commit acts of DV, yes, there probably is a small case they could be let off, but it seems that the system as it is now favors women.
    If that were truly the case, then we would get more cases to trial. In my state - and my county in particular - very few even get filed, and almost none go to trial (they tend to plead out). Since the victim - and often the only witness - recants within 48 hours in more than 75% of cases (usually closer to 85% by trial), DV cases can be very difficult to prove without independent witnesses or serious injury. Even then there can be serious problems.

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    And you base this opinion on what level of involvement with domestic violence?

    and almost none go to trial (they tend to plead out). Since the victim - and often the only witness - recants within 48 hours in more than 75% of cases (usually closer to 85% by trial), DV cases can be very difficult to prove without independent witnesses or serious injury. Even then there can be serious problems.

    - Carl
    My own mother hit me and encouraged my father to hit me. Does that count? I have been hit many times by women in relationships yet I have never raised one finger. I consider violence to be a stupid person's solution to a problem they don't have the wits to solve.

    I have never bothered to report any of these instances of course because just watch T.V. You will notice that whenever a woman hits a man it's okay and used for humor, yet when a man hits a woman it's considered morally reprehensible.

    Society is skewed towards women right now in terms of family law. Way skewed. Especially in liberal areas.

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    My own mother hit me and encouraged my father to hit me. Does that count? I have been hit many times by women in relationships yet I have never raised one finger. I consider violence to be a stupid person's solution to a problem they don't have the wits to solve.

    I have never bothered to report any of these instances of course because just watch T.V. You will notice that whenever a woman hits a man it's okay and used for humor, yet when a man hits a woman it's considered morally reprehensible.

    Society is skewed towards women right now in terms of family law. Way skewed. Especially in liberal areas.
    Do some volunteer work for a DV agency and see if your opinion doesn't change!

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    My own mother hit me and encouraged my father to hit me. Does that count? I have been hit many times by women in relationships yet I have never raised one finger. I consider violence to be a stupid person's solution to a problem they don't have the wits to solve.
    So, you have a couple of anecdotal stories. Sorry, but that does not make you all knowledgeable on DV and the related issues.

    When I was growing up the expectation was that a woman would slap a man who got "fresh" or otherwise out of line with them. The man was expected to take it. That was life. However, far too many men (yes, it is overwhelmingly men that are abusers) do more than abuse their significant others, they dominate them to the point where many will risk jail themselves for perjury or a confession to a false report rather than risk the ire of their man!

    There are some very telling tomes available on the subject. Check out your local library and you might be able to find a few.

    Society is skewed towards women right now in terms of family law. Way skewed. Especially in liberal areas.
    If you were to say it was skewed toward the woman in the area of child custody and support, I'd tend to agree. But, in other areas, I'd say the law has tried to walk a delicate balancing act between the rights of the defendant and protecting the victim(s) of domestic violence. Sadly, recent case law has only made it tougher to make a case against an abuser when the victim goes sideways and recants or refuses to cooperate. In those instances we can almost guarantee repeat calls to the same couple ... only next time, the damage will be greater.

    I can cite curdling stories of domestic violence including a small number where the woman WAS making it up to get the man in trouble. Of course, a SMART guy gets out when that happens ... unfortunately, too many guys stick it out and end up getting snagged in the web of lies a couple of times before it can get sorted out.

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    So, you have a couple of anecdotal stories. Sorry, but that does not make you all knowledgeable on DV and the related issues.

    ...

    If you were to say it was skewed toward the woman in the area of child custody and support, I'd tend to agree. But, in other areas, I'd say the law has tried to walk a delicate balancing act between the rights of the defendant and protecting the victim(s) of domestic violence.
    Anecdotal stories ... okay ... whatever... at this point I don't really want to talk to you anymore because you've put me down without any cause.

    What I've seen far more in relationships is the women using psychological manipulation to get what they want in really vengeful ways. Unfortunately a lot of guys get angry and sometimes violent when pushed to extremes that way, and as a result get into trouble.

    But since you've decided to attack me personally I won't talk to you anymore. Bye.

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