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    Default Having Children Fly as Unaccompanied Minors After Visitation

    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Arizona. I am the non-custodial parent and I have visitation rights for the Christmas holiday, not to include New Year's. After visitation I am required to take the kids to their father's home, a 5hr drive and 1 state away. The kids' father has told me no adult will be there on the appointed date of custody transfer and asked if I could fly the kids to another state for him or drop them at the airport for him to get them to the state in which he is spending his holiday. What are my responsibilities if there is no adult available to receive the kids, ages 12 and 14, in their father's city of residence?

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    My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Arizona. I am the non-custodial parent and I have visitation rights for the Christmas holiday, not to include New Year's. After visitation I am required to take the kids to their father's home, a 5hr drive and 1 state away. The kids' father has told me no adult will be there on the appointed date of custody transfer and asked if I could fly the kids to another state for him or drop them at the airport for him to get them to the state in which he is spending his holiday. What are my responsibilities if there is no adult available to receive the kids, ages 12 and 14, in their father's city of residence?
    You should be willing to drop them off at the airport to fly on tickets arranged and paid for by their father. To attempt to keep them longer would likely cause you problems.

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    Why is it a problem to have them fly to where Dad is, if he is taking care of the arrangements?

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    You should be willing to drop them off at the airport to fly on tickets arranged and paid for by their father. To attempt to keep them longer would likely cause you problems.
    I don't want to keep them longer. The issue is: if I fly the kids to their home city and their father buys them continuing tickets to the city in which he's spending the holiday, who is legally responsible for the kids in the connecting airport, because they are unaccompanied minors and will not have an adult to sign them in to their connecting flight. Or alternatively, I could drive them 5-6hrs to their home city, spend another 3-4 hours getting them on a flight, because an adult is required to be there, and then drive 5-6hrs home, or stay in a hotel, which is expensive. I'm trying to avoid setting up a situation where the kids' father always expects me to cater to his whims at the expense of my time and life when I'm returning the kids from my visitation. I should be able to drop the kids in their home city without worry or hassle, period. But the most important part of my question is about who is responsible for the kids either in the airport or in their home city if there is no receiving adult there? Thanks

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    Default Re: What if No Custodial Parent Available to Receive Child After Non-Custodial Visita

    Unaccompanied minors cannot take connecting flights IIRC. You would be responsible for sitting at the gate until 15 minutes after the plane takes off. You will sign him in. Dad will sign them out on the other side. They are only released to the person on the check in sheet.
    If you wanted babies all to yourself, you should have created them by yourself. Until you do that, children have the right to BOTH parents, especially since you found them suitable to procreate with.

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    I don't want to keep them longer. The issue is: if I fly the kids to their home city and their father buys them continuing tickets to the city in which he's spending the holiday, who is legally responsible for the kids in the connecting airport, because they are unaccompanied minors and will not have an adult to sign them in to their connecting flight. Or alternatively, I could drive them 5-6hrs to their home city, spend another 3-4 hours getting them on a flight, because an adult is required to be there, and then drive 5-6hrs home, or stay in a hotel, which is expensive. I'm trying to avoid setting up a situation where the kids' father always expects me to cater to his whims at the expense of my time and life when I'm returning the kids from my visitation. I should be able to drop the kids in their home city without worry or hassle, period. But the most important part of my question is about who is responsible for the kids either in the airport or in their home city if there is no receiving adult there? Thanks
    Most airlines have staff who will escort unaccompanied minors on flights. Depending on the airline - which you can Google and look it up - you should be able to do that if there won't be someone at the connecting flight.

    Southwest Airlines: https://www.southwest.com/html/custo...inors-pol.html

    United: https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...s/default.aspx

    Delta: http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../children.html

    Is he paying for the tickets? 3-4 hours? I have never spent 3-4 hours going through security or getting on a flight at an airport even when we were traveling in mass to deployments.

    I would say call the airline he got them flights on and ask them about their unaccompanied minor policy. The fact they are 12 and 14 I think they're also more than capable to get to the right place with the assistance of an escort from the airline.

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    At 12cand 14, they can take connecting flights. Heck, on SW, they are not flying UM after turning 12 (unless things have changed in recent years...). Do these children have impairments that would make it difficult for them to maneuver this adventure?

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    Default Re: What if No Custodial Parent Available to Receive Child After Non-Custodial Visita

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    At 12cand 14, they can take connecting flights. Heck, on SW, they are not flying UM after turning 12 (unless things have changed in recent years...). Do these children have impairments that would make it difficult for them to maneuver this adventure?
    No it's the same according to the link I posted for Southwestern. It says: "Children ages five through 11 traveling without an accompanying Passenger age 12 or older must travel as an Unaccompanied Minor (UM) on Southwest Airlines." But on other airlines the age limit is higher like 16.

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    No it's the same according to the link I posted for Southwestern. It says: "Children ages five through 11 traveling without an accompanying Passenger age 12 or older must travel as an Unaccompanied Minor (UM) on Southwest Airlines." But on other airlines the age limit is higher like 16.
    But they should be able to take connecting flights. These are not small children.

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    I don't want to keep them longer. The issue is: if I fly the kids to their home city and their father buys them continuing tickets to the city in which he's spending the holiday, who is legally responsible for the kids in the connecting airport, because they are unaccompanied minors and will not have an adult to sign them in to their connecting flight. Or alternatively, I could drive them 5-6hrs to their home city, spend another 3-4 hours getting them on a flight, because an adult is required to be there, and then drive 5-6hrs home, or stay in a hotel, which is expensive. I'm trying to avoid setting up a situation where the kids' father always expects me to cater to his whims at the expense of my time and life when I'm returning the kids from my visitation. I should be able to drop the kids in their home city without worry or hassle, period. But the most important part of my question is about who is responsible for the kids either in the airport or in their home city if there is no receiving adult there? Thanks
    Why would you not put them on a plane where you live, going directly to where their father would be located? Why all this rigamarole? Why would you not be putting them on a plane with a ticket arranged by their father for that?

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