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    Default Re: Citizenship of Diplomat() Child

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    I don't doubt what you're saying, I'm curious about JK's post/s.
    I am definitely confused about post number 7.

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    I am definitely confused about post number 7.
    Phew. I thought it was just me-sans-coffee!

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    But in that example the child would be, by virtue of jus soli or jus sanguinis, a US citizen. Right?
    In most cases, yes but in the case of a diplomat of certain levels, apparently not

    In this it states that when a diplomat has a child born in Virginia there is no difference between the birth certificate of the child of a citizen or the child of a diplomat.



    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/243187/children-diplomats-mark-krikorian


    a state issues a birth certificate because the child is born in the given state. Again, a birth certificate does not confer citizenship upon a child. It is merely a legally required documentation of a birth within any given state.

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    I am definitely confused about post number 7.
    What's so confusing? A state issues a birth certificate for all children born within their borders no matter where the parents reside.

    Are you confused because I said there is no such thing as a US birth certificate? If so, check yours. What does it say? I'll bet is lists the state you were born in. It is a state issued document; not a federally issued document so it is not a US birth certificate but a state birth certificate.

    All a birth certificate is is a copy of the record of the birth which all states require to be done. It in itself does not mean anything more than that; the person named was born on the date listed at the facility listed to the parents (or mother only if no father listed) listed.

    The problem is the SSA does not ask an applicant for a SS number whether they are the children of foreign diplomats. It is accepted (incorrectly in my belief) that once a person has a SS number and a US birth certificate they are US citizens. Since the SS number was given erroneously I do not accept that they are citizens simply due to the SS number. Apparently the state department has not been so concerned with the issue that they change the directives given the SSA that would allow them to refuse a SS number when appropriate and as such people that were born to foreign diplomats in the US that apply for a SS number slip under the fence and are accepted to be citizens of the US.

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    Thank you everyone for your help. The hospital staff knew that my parents were from an embassy and they still gave them my DC birth certificate, they said that everyone gets one regardless of origin. The hospital or someone official also made me a social security number with no problems at all, which was voluntary but my parents thought why not.
    I looked at the second link from #3 and didn't find my father in the Blue List from paragraph a2, which means he was probably in the White List from paragraph b1, making me a citizen. Unfortunately I couldn't find the White List online so I am requesting to see it in the "Contact us" form on the State Department website. Also thank you for the list of lawyers in #5, my father and I will talk and contact one of the lawyers from there. Have a nice day everyone

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