Why do Fathers Have to Pay Child Support?

[cissycicle]

Neither are you.

Will you marry me?

[libra23]

I agree with you, this is the best method to avoid becoming a father, paying child support, etc. But what if the man WANTS to become a father, the woman can still abort.

It is obvious that I am alone (or close to it) in this line of thought, I am just curious as to why men have no rights at all when it comes to conception. I do not want to see a return to pre Roe v Wade, but a compromise would be nice.

Why go from total male control to total female control? There must be a middle ground.

I completely agree with you and I am a mother of two. If I were to become pregnant by accident and the man did not want to have the child and I decided to have the baby then I would not expect anything from him. Post conception I made the choice to have a baby, not him.

[aaron]

A match made in heaven.

[cloudnine]

So, I'm a little confused. Is the guy married, fooled around with someone else, got the non-wife pregnant, and is now pissed at her because she doesn't want to get an abortion? Or is he just saying he'll love the children produced by "his far-off in the future wife" but there's no way in heck he'll ever love the kid he's having with the girl he had a fling with?

If the former, way to go buddy, you're a real winner. I feel bad for your wife and offspring. Don't do something if you don't want to deal with the consequences.

If the latter, way to go buddy, you're a real winner. And I feel bad for your future wife and offspring. Again, you don't want to deal with the consequences, you shouldn't have done it in the first place.

Obviously something he's already been told time and again, but one more time can't hurt.

[deadlock]

Yes. You are correct. And that child is now going to be legally protected from having anything to do with the father.

My response is for colorfast and VinceColeman- please stay clear of those little children that seem to bother you so much. I for one really enjoy them in all their just "learning civilized behavior" and when they are raw and untethered. I think there is something that gets bottled up when we try to stiffel them. I am sure there are times when it isn't my best day for them....

But I really love to watch their sense of curiosity and uninhibited questions about things that are not really the best place for a discussion. And I hate watching them see people like you who try to shame them for being exactly who they are.

You don't always know what is going on when you pass judgement on the parents.

[danielpalos]

I have not read any case law regarding this issue. How are percentages of legal responsibility calculated, if one of two people vetoes a decision that could result in private income transfer payments that may be considered disproportionate when used as a form of direct taxation?

Is a quorum required for valid social transactions involving more than one individual, and if so, can one individual be responsible for more than fifty percent of any resulting obligation?

However, in no case should an individual be required to make income transfer payments if they have no legal or physical custody rights; thus, no obligation; according to the full faith and credit of that public act.

[cloudnine]

Yes. You are correct. And that child is now going to be legally protected from having anything to do with the father.

I'm correct about which? I gave two scenarios...

[deadlock]

I'm correct about which? I gave two scenarios...

Your statement-

Don't do something if you don't want to deal with the consequences.

I agree with you.

[cloudnine]

Your statement-

I agree with you.

oooooooh.

[danielpalos]

What about the contention, that in no case should an individual be required to make income transfer payments if they have no legal or physical custody rights; thus, no obligation; according to the full faith and credit of that public act.

In other words, if a person is adjudicated zero percent legal and physical custody, doesn't that imply zero percent liability? What kinds of liability are there, in a court of law, if it has been determined that one individual has zero percent legal liability.