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    Default Re: Officer Charged Me -Issued Protective Order -Never Talked 2 Other Person

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    I disagree with the last part of your post. If you have ever had your arm grabbed where you pulled it away try to remember...people tend to rotate their arms up when they are trying to pull their arm away from someone, and if they are standing more or less towards the side of the person who has grabbed their arm it would be very easy to knock someone's glasses off...particularly if the person was not a great deal taller than you. So to me, its totally plausible that she knocked his glasses off pulling her arm away.
    My experience is more from the other side of such situations. After working over 20 years as a street patrol officer, I think it is safe to say I have “grabbed” someone by the arm hundreds if not thousands of times. Now, as I said before, “grabbed” can be interpreted as covering a wide variety of actions from the guy that gets jerked off his feet over the hood of the patrol car all the way down to the light grasp on the arm of the compliant person who I am escorting into the backseat. A goodly portion of those I have “grabbed” have attempted to pull their arm “free” (as OP says) – some have even done so successfully. A smaller portion have swung their “grasped” arm in an aggressive/assaultive manner. In my experience, a person who merely wants to “free” their arm (with no aggressive/assaultive demeanor) will generally take at least a half a step away from the person grabbing them, raise the arm no more than shoulder level, and swing the arm straight across their own torso – frequently accompanied by a twist of the torso in the same direction (AWAY from the grabber). So, even if the “grabbed” person is directly facing the grabber (unless the grabber is several inches shorter than the grabie – is that even a word?), any inadvertent physical contact would be no higher than chest level.

    On the other hand, if the arm is swung up and out (away from the grabies body), that is more than an attempt to “free” the grasped arm. Typically, this type of move is accompanied by a step TOWARD the grabber and/or an extension of the swung arm toward the head/face of the grabber. That is an aggressive move designed to force the grabber to back away or suffer being struck – and get their glasses knocked off their face. I am not saying that such a movement might not be justified in some circumstances, just that it is more than a non-aggressive attempt to “free” the grasped arm.

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    Default Re: Officer Charged Me -Issued Protective Order -Never Talked 2 Other Person

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    What is so sacred about a kid's sporting event? Does the First Amendment not apply to that kind of event?
    You do not get into a fight with your kid's other parent at an event where your child and other children are at. Do you really think kids need to see that? Obviously you do not have kids and have not been involved with custodial disputes. The parenting classes they have you take specifically say not to fight in front of your kids.

    Also I really wish people would stop with the First Amendment crap. The First Amendment protects us from the government restricting our speech - not from other citizens criticizing your behavior or telling you not to argue. You cannot just act like an insane person whenever you want without repercussions.

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