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    Question Is it Manslaughter to Let Somebody Die of a Medical Condition

    My question involves criminal law for the state of: North Carolina and/or South Carolina

    this probably going to be the most gloomiest and twisted post on expert law, but im just really curious about this. Let me explain the whole story. I'm a 19 year old male with autism (if that helps you understand the way i think) and i had a job working retail that i hated with an extreme passion but i never quit because my parents made me keep the job. Back in March of this year, i quit the job without telling my parents because they wouldn't give me the days off for my Washington D.C. road trip that me and my parents were taking together. Eventually, while we were on the trip in Washington D.C., my parents and I got into a huge argument because they found out that I quit my job, and they said that they were going to kick me out of the house, and I told them "I don't care, I'll run away without my insulin and die" (i have type 1 diabetes also. I'm not suicidal at all because i don't have the guts to kill myself, but i have a history of depression and wanting to be dead because my life sucks) plus i've been talking about running away without my insulin and dieing to them for a while because i hated my job they made me keep and other personal stuff in my life.

    It was cold in Washington D.C. so i wanted to go south to be some place warmer when i died, so i left the hotel room without my insulin and got on a greyhound bus to Charlotte North Carolina (that was the furthest bus ride south i could afford). By the time I made it to North Carolina, I was already feeling sick because i didn't take any insulin in a while and I felt like i was going to die. I have a gay dating app on my ipod that uses my ipod's location to detect men who are near me, and this one 35 year old man messaged me and he asked me how i was doing. We started texting each other on my cellphone, and I basically told him everything that happened and that was going on because i needed to vent. and I told him that now i was in Charlotte North Carolina without my insulin and I was feeling really sick and I felt I was going to die soon.

    BUT he then texted me back and asked me if I would like to come to his house and stay there, and he also told me that he's a necrophiliac and basically what he wanted to do was pick me up from the bus station, take me back to his house, wait for me to go into a diabetic coma and die of no insulin, then he wanted to keep my corpse and have sex with it. I thought about it for some time, but eventually i texted him back and told him "Yes, i'd be ok with it". but before he could come pick me up from the bus stop, my parents called me on the phone and were really stressed out and worried (they knew i didn't have any insulin with me) and they told me that it was ok that i quit my job and that they aren't really going to kick me out at all, and they apologized for arguing with me and they asked me where i was, and I told them i was in North Carolina, so they said they were going to come pick me up from the bus station. I texted the guy who wanted to have sex with my dead body and told him that I changed my mind, and he didn't come get me at all. and then my parents arrived a couple hours later and they picked me up from the bus stop and we went back to Washington D.C. and eventually we returned home after we finished our trip, and here I am today.. still alive..

    But my morbid curiosity recently got the best of me and I'm just wondering what would have happened if my parents didn't call me in-time and I DID go back to this guy's house (assuming he wasn't some crazy person who held me captive or who murdered me himself) and he let me sit up in his house until i went into a diabetic coma and died and he had sex with my dead body and my parents reporting me missing (assuming the cops would actually go searching for me which I highly doubt they would have since i'm not a minor) and the cops traced my cellphone records to his house. I'm wondering if they guy would have been charged with anything, i'm very doubtful that he would've but am i wrong?

    These are my questions for everyone:

    1. Assuming everything went the way he said it would, withou the man holding me captive and without him murdering me himself, and if he just bought me back to his house and i stayed there willingly until i died from a diabetic coma, would he have gotten introuble for that if the cops found out. eventhough the cops knew he wasn't holding me captive at all and i died willingly because of the evidence and the text messages saved on our phones?
    2. Would he also get charged for having sex with my dead body?
    3. If that all would have happened, what specific charges would he be facing? I highly doubt he would be facing abduction charges because i am 19 years old and i would have gone with him willingly and I also doubt that he would have been held responsible for my death because i did die willingly and he didn't hold me captive at all. am i wrong about that though?
    4. Would he have been arrested right on the scene if the cops found my body inside his house? or if they busted in while he was having sex with my dead body?
    5. If he DIDN'T get arrested at all and if it was clear to them that he didn't kidnap me or murder me either and he ended up not getting any criminal charges, would they let him keep the body too? or would the police confiscate it?


    ALSO, Charlotte North Carolina is right on the border of the states of North Carolina and South Carolina, so I'm not sure exactly where his house was so i included both states. I'm curious if that would matter though.

    sorry if this whole story grossed people out but I was just curious. I've been thinking about this for quite some time, a lot more than i probably should. AND also, my life has gotten better since then so i don't really feel like running away without my insulin and dying anymore right now so no one has to worry about that for now. I don't have a job anymore obviously but i'm getting some help with going on SSI so i'm getting better

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    Default Re: Letting Someone Die and Necrophilia Would He Have Been Charged for Anything

    Failing to report the death is a felony

    Having sex with a corpse is also a felony

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    Default Re: Letting Someone Die and Necrophilia Would He Have Been Charged for Anything

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    Failing to report the death is a felony

    Having sex with a corpse is also a felony
    I disagree, at least with respect to North Carolina law. I looked at the state statutes and did not find any statute that (1) imposed a requirement on the general public to report a death, much less a statute making it a felony for failing to report a death or that (2) made having sex with a corpse a crime, much less a felony. If you have citations to the statutes you are relying upon for your answer, please do post them. I’d like to see them.

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    I disagree, at least with respect to North Carolina law. I looked at the state statutes and did not find any statute that (1) imposed a requirement on the general public to report a death, much less a statute making it a felony for failing to report a death or that (2) made having sex with a corpse a crime, much less a felony. If you have citations to the statutes you are relying upon for your answer, please do post them. I’d like to see them.
    I guess you missed this one:


    § 14-401.22. Concealment of death; disturbing human remains; dismembering humanremains.(a) Except as provided in subsection (a1) of this section, any person who, with theintent to conceal the death of a person, fails to notify a law enforcement authority of the deathor secretly buries or otherwise secretly disposes of a dead human body is guilty of a Class Ifelony.(a1) Any person who, with the intent to conceal the death of a child, fails to notify a lawenforcement authority of the death or secretly buries or otherwise secretly disposes of a deadchild's body is guilty of a Class H felony. For purposes of this subsection, a child is any personwho is less than 16 years of age.(b) Any person who aids, counsels, or abets any other person in concealing the death ofa person is guilty of a Class A1 misdemeanor.(c) Any person who willfully (i) disturbs, vandalizes, or desecrates human remains, byany means, including any physical alteration or manipulation of the human remains, or (ii)commits or attempts to commit upon any human remains any act of sexual penetration is guiltyof a Class I felony. This subsection does not apply to1) Acts by a first responder or others providing medical care.(2) Acts committed as part of scientific or medical research, treatment, ordiagnosis.(3) Acts performed by a licensed funeral director or embalmer consistent withstandard practice.(4) Acts committed for the purpose of extracting body parts in accordance withusual and customary standards of medical practice.(5) Acts by a professional archaeologist as defined in G.S. 70-28(4) actingpursuant to the provisions of Article 3 of Chapter 70 of the General Statutes.(6) Acts committed for any other lawful purpose.(d) Any person who attempts to conceal evidence of the death of another by knowinglyand willfully dismembering or destroying human remains, by any means, including removingbody parts or otherwise obliterating any portion thereof, shall be guilty of a Class H felony.(e) Any person who violates subsection (a), (a1), or (d) of this section, knowing orhaving reason to know the body or human remains are of a person that did not die of naturalcauses, shall be guilty of a Class D felony.(f) As used in this section, "human remains" means any dead human body in anycondition of decay or any significant part of a dead human body, including any limb, organ, orbone. (2005-288, s. 1; 2011-193, s. 1; 2013-52, s. 5.)

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    Default Re: Letting Someone Die and Necrophilia Would He Have Been Charged for Anything

    At risk of being accused of feeding the troll, what is it, exactly, that you want? All of your posts indicate a rather boring need for attention. You've received the answers that you requested and some bonus commentary to boot so...what?

    I've also read your other threads and your juvenile streak of self destructive behavior is tedious. If you want to stop taking your insulin then do so and reap the consequences. You're an adult, a fact you seem to hurl around like so many other freshly minted legal adults, so, as my grandmother used to say, take what you want and pay for it.

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    Default Re: Letting Someone Die and Necrophilia Would He Have Been Charged for Anything

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    I guess you missed this one:....§ 14-401.22.
    I did, and thanks for the cite. It confirms that the sexual penetration of the corpse is a felony.

    But the statute does not make it a crime merely to know of a death and fail to report it. The person must have failed to report the death with the intent to conceal it. And even then, the crime is not a felony, is it a misdemeanor offense. It only becomes a felony if, in addition to having the intent to conceal it, the person knew the decedent did not die of natural causes.

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    I did, and thanks for the cite. It confirms that the sexual penetration of the corpse is a felony.

    But the statute does not make it a crime merely to know of a death and fail to report it. The person must have failed to report the death with the intent to conceal it. And even then, the crime is not a felony, is it a misdemeanor offense. It only becomes a felony if, in addition to having the intent to conceal it, the person knew the decedent did not die of natural causes.
    this may be a dumb question, but im just curious, would a diabetic dying of no insulin be considered a natural cause? i feel like it would be but just wondering.

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    I did, and thanks for the cite. It confirms that the sexual penetration of the corpse is a felony.

    But the statute does not make it a crime merely to know of a death and fail to report it. The person must have failed to report the death with the intent to conceal it. And even then, the crime is not a felony, is it a misdemeanor offense. It only becomes a felony if, in addition to having the intent to conceal it, the person knew the decedent did not die of natural causes.
    Yes it does if their is intent to conceal the death. In other words, if I'm walking down the street and see a body I have no obligation to report it but if I am in control of the body and am keeping it for my own use, there is intent to conceal the death which is a crime. Notice the OR in the statute after the statement about concealment.

    Right here is says it's a felony;



    a) Except as provided in subsection (a1) of this section, any person who, with theintent to conceal the death of a person, fails to notify a law enforcement authority of the deathor secretly buries or otherwise secretly disposes of a dead human body is guilty of a Class Ifelony

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